HD Reference Monitors for FCP Suite

[Shane Ross]

Yeah yeah…I wasted that money. I did look at the image via component and HD SDI and it is the same darn image.

And I cannot offload this HD SDI card now…darn it all. If I could…man…

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Tim Allison]

To answer your questions, Shane, this monitor is primarily for the editor to use. So I guess that means that there will be some color correction work done on this monitor. But let’s be real….we rarely do color correction work. If somebody screwed up and failed to white balance, and we absolutely had to have that shot, yeah, then we would do some color correction. But unless something is obviously wrong, in our shop, the color a properly white-balanced camera gives us is good enough.

We will have a capture card…it will be either a Kona 3 or an Io-HD (when those finally come out.) For our situation, both of those have a HD-SDI port available to connect to the monitor.

We really like to have two computer monitors in our editing system. If the Matrox MXO forces us to lose one of those, then I’ll go with one of the LCD monitors.

Since you failed to mention the Panasonic, I assume you like the JVC more than the Panny. From what little on-line shopping I’ve done, the price for these two seem to be very close.

[Shane Ross]

[Tim Allison] ”
Since you failed to mention the Panasonic, I assume you like the JVC more than the Panny. From what little on-line shopping I’ve done, the price for these two seem to be very close.”

I went to a “monitor shootout” at Alpha Dogs in Burbank and they had 10 monitors setup…and supposedly they were balanced by reps from the company. The Panasonic one was WAY bright…just really out there. We all agreed that the person must have set this up like Best Buy sets up TVs on the show floor…as big and bright as they can to catch the customers eyes. But it was the absolute wrong thing to do here. Since I was there to judge the quality differences, the Panasonic wasn’t the worse, but it was VERY LOW on the totem pole because of this. I was more impressed with the JVC at the same price point.

The biggest issue with that monitor though (and all the LCDs besides the TV Logic) was that off axis, like 45 degrees…and RED became SALMON. not good when you need the editor AND a producer/DP both judging quality. But…I was most impressed with that model in the $5K range.

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Chris Borjis]

Walter, you own the PVM series without HD-SDI option board and you are connected to it via component analogue correct?

Are you editing and color correcting in Final Cut in HD and using your AJA to downconvert realtime in hardware to your PVM?

Thats what I’ve been doing here and it seems to be ok.

I believe it has something to do with the fact that the PVM and BVM both use SMPTE-C phosphours.

[Walter Biscardi]

[Borjis] “Walter, you own the PVM series without HD-SDI option board and you are connected to it via component analogue correct?”

Yes.

[Borjis] “Are you editing and color correcting in Final Cut in HD and using your AJA to downconvert realtime in hardware to your PVM?”

No, they are multi-format monitors. They are displaying HD. PVM20L5/1 and PVM14L5/1.

[Borjis] “Thats what I’ve been doing here and it seems to be ok.

I believe it has something to do with the fact that the PVM and BVM both use SMPTE-C phosphours.”

SMTPE-C phosphors are desired, though I CC HD in HD.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Shane Ross]

[Borjis] “Walter, you own the PVM series without HD-SDI option board and you are connected to it via component analogue correct?

Are you editing and color correcting in Final Cut in HD and using your AJA to downconvert realtime in hardware to your PVM?”

The Component outs are HD component as well as SD…just like the SDI outs are SD SDI and HD SDI. So he is color correcting in a HIGH DEF color space.

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Chris Borjis]

ah, I did not know the PVM would take HD in analog.

I thought it was only if you had the HD-SDI board option.

If I’m not mistaken the phosphor coating in all PVM/BVM monitors are SMPTE-C but what I’ve always wondered is of the HD circuitry inside remaps the color from 601 to 709. Have you ever compared them?

Thanks! 🙂

[Chris Borjis]

ah, I did not know the PVM would take HD in analog.

I thought it was only if you had the HD-SDI board option.

If I’m not mistaken the phosphor coating in all PVM/BVM monitors are SMPTE-C but what I’ve always wondered is of the HD circuitry inside remaps the color from 601 to 709. Do the pictures in HD appear much richer (reds etc…)

Thanks! 🙂

[Chris Borjis]

[Shane Ross] “The Component outs are HD component as well as SD…just like the SDI outs are SD SDI and HD SDI. So he is color correcting in a HIGH DEF color space.”

yep, just like my multibridge.

[Sean Oneil]

Keep in mind, LED backlighting will start being introduced in products these next few years. This can drastically improve the black levels for LCDs. I think it’s a great time to wait on a monitor if possible.