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Hawaiki Color for Final Cut Pro X
Oliver Peters replied 12 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 21 Replies
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Mitch Ives
August 7, 2013 at 4:29 pm[Mark Dobson] “Thanks to Simon I have been a beta tester with the Hawaiki Auto Adjust plugin which has just been launched and this is brilliant for correcting white balance. “
Is that one possibly called Hawaiki AutoGrade?
[Mark Dobson] “But as others have said I think that the plugin developers have been both aided and shackled by the motion template architecture.”
Yes, it does seem to be an anchor that FCP X is dragging. The irony is that there is no round-tripping between FCPX and Motion, which we had in the old versions…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Mark Dobson
August 7, 2013 at 4:31 pm[Mitch Ives] “Is that one possibly called Hawaiki AutoGrade?”
Thank’s Mitch, that’s right – Hawaiki AutoGrade – available via FX FActory
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Mitch Ives
August 7, 2013 at 4:44 pmAt the annual “FCPX plugins Awards” I nominate AutoGrade as the best $20 FCPX plugin in the known solar system…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Jeremy Garchow
August 7, 2013 at 4:46 pm[Mitch Ives] “[Mark Dobson] “But as others have said I think that the plugin developers have been both aided and shackled by the motion template architecture.”
Yes, it does seem to be an anchor that FCP X is dragging. The irony is that there is no round-tripping between FCPX and Motion, which we had in the old versions…”
I’m not so sure it’s an anchor, but more of a foundation. The next level isn’t quite built yet.
There is more connectivity to Motion than ever before while simultaneously having less connection than ever before.
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Mitch Ives
August 7, 2013 at 4:52 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “There is more connectivity to Motion than ever before while simultaneously having less connection than ever before.”
Okay, this gets added to the “classic quotes” series…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Craig Seeman
August 7, 2013 at 4:54 pmRigging and Publishing is an excellent “cross-connect.” It’s two way in that you can click on an effect and open in Motion to modify. Basically Apple has focused on the conduit for the effects engine but hasn’t yet shown how they will handle the media cross-connect. Of course we hope it’s on the way,
it’s just Apple has thus far focused on the new communication and not yet worked on the new way to do the old “send to Motion.” Actually I’m hoping it’s a bit more nifty when that happens.
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Jeremy Garchow
August 7, 2013 at 5:26 pm[Mitch Ives] “Okay, this gets added to the “classic quotes” series…”
I aim to please!
It’s true, though.
You can open certain things in Motion right from FCPX.
You can create certain things in Motion and use them in FCPX.
Unfortunately, some of the things you can’t send back and forth is footage. 🙁
But you can create room for footage in drop zones! 😐
Notice the indifference.
Unfortunately, it’s all a bit “templatey” now. Meaning you can create a template type of thing and use it.
If templates are useful to you, then this is awesome.
What the workflow is missing at this point, is custom shot work. This is why plugs like Hawaiki, SliceX, and Nattress allow more custom creativity at this point, and it all happens right in FCPX, weird interfaces and all. I have been waiting for things like this for a long time. I, for one, look forward to these types of developments even if they aren’t perfect. It is much more capability than is currently available in Final Cut Pro 7. At a very basic level, that’s all I really want.
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Mitch Ives
August 7, 2013 at 5:58 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “I, for one, look forward to these types of developments even if they aren’t perfect. It is much more capability than is currently available in Final Cut Pro 7. At a very basic level, that’s all I really want.”
Exactly, and this is the true brilliance of Apple. These plugins are more affordable than ever and add to FCPX in ways that Apple couldn’t have thought of by themselves…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Simon Ubsdell
August 7, 2013 at 7:40 pm[Mitch Ives] “At the annual “FCPX plugins Awards” I nominate AutoGrade as the best $20 FCPX plugin in the known solar system…”
Is that a tuxedo affair? Do we lose our nomination when the price goes up next week to an eye-watering $29?
Seriously, though, many thanks to Mitch, Craig, Jeremy, Mark, and Oliver for your support. It is hugely appreciated!
Simon Ubsdell
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Oliver Peters
August 8, 2013 at 4:19 pmI think part of the complaints with the CB UI are alleviated if you map keyboard keystrokes. All of the functions have numerical values and these can be easily mapped. I think Steve & Mark (Ripple) had a tip a few months ago on MacBreak Studio about doing this.
In general, I’m a big proponent of color grading inside the NLE if the toolset is right. Even the big guns like Quantel Pablo are at their heart an NLE. It just so happened that the grading side brought more success.
I’ve done this for years with Symphony, but also MC and FCP “legacy”. I’ve run Color, SpeedGrade and Resolve and these are all wonderful, but deep programs. The actual color correction tools in Resolve aren’t vastly superior to Color, but the rest of the application (conforming, grouping, etc.) is deep and rather unintuitive. If you only access Resolve via round-tripping, you tend not to touch these. Truly understanding what they do, requires serious RTFM. 😉
If I’m already working in an NLE/database manager/conforming application (like just about any NLE), then why should I re-invent the wheel? Unless you get into very exotic grades, most of the correction you’d like to achieve can be done in the available NLE tools.
That’s what Hawaiki brings to the table. An easily understood, yet powerful tool, that lets you stay within the application. In effect, it’s (sort of) a much “lighter” version of the Baselight Editions plug-in. Of course, at the cost, it’s rather amazing.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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