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[Walter Soyka] “Oh my goodness, your post is 125x more efficient in word-count than mine was.
“Just go trackless, my friend. It’s 125x more efficient.
heh heh….
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I’m a dullard.
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“Qualify “look right””
I think Walter probably spelled it out best and yes, I agree it may be coincidental. In X I use the default dissolve and often what I see in the mix looks like there’s some sort of s-curve applied to the gammas. So brighter values stay solid longer throughout the dissolve than darker values, which become transparent earlier.
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Walter always spells it out best.
[Oliver Peters] ” In X I use the default dissolve and often what I see in the mix looks like there’s some sort of s-curve applied to the gammas”
Then get in there and fix it! The dissolve has a myriad of choices including easing in and out on top of the different curves. I often, on audio only dissolves in music, have to change the curve to +3 to get it to “sound right” and keep the levels through the transition. I would hardly call the dissolve the “worst offender” it just has a lot of options and I rarely use the default.
I don’t think this has to do with GPU vs CPU and quality.
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“The dissolve has a myriad of choices including easing in and out on top of the different curves.”
Those are acceleration curves and do not affect how the video levels are actually mixed.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I often, on audio only dissolves in music, have to change the curve to +3 to get it to “sound right” and keep the levels through the transition.”
Just don’t make it asymmetrical! 😉
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[Oliver Peters] ”
I have yet to see a dissolve on a GPU-based system that seems to look right to me. FCPX is the worst offender.”I now realize that this group CAN debate anything!
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Oh goody. Let’s get into a screeching fight about terminology again!
I stand firmly with the concept that “dissolve” implies perfusion of a substance throughout a liquid medium. and therefore, “CROSS FADE” is the proper and ONLY acceptable term. So things MUST be changed. Or not.
And no, don’t even think about arguing for “cross-dissolve” – as a compromise. You’re just enabling.
Have to admit the esoteric nature of the whole thread made me ticked that I’m on deadline this week and can’t play. I’m extra grumpy since I’ve just spent 4 full days back and forth between FCP X and Motion trying to get pre-holiday tight deadline work out – and annoyed most of the time because I don’t properly understand the effect of the very conceptual limitations that are being discussed here by people with much more knowledge of these things then myself.
Bottom line: Why don’t things work more simply and EXACTLY the way *I* want them to!!! (every other editor on the planets differing wants and needs be dammed.)
There, now I feel better. Carry on.
(oh, and at least now thanks to this thread, I have a small clue about WHY I can’t (in Motion) do effective transitions between the “scenes” of the Motion work I’m banging out. So that’s a bit calming, anyway.)
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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[Oliver Peters] “Those are acceleration curves and do not affect how the video levels are actually mixed.
“Well no, but they do control the speed and look, which helps when it needs to look right.
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[Herb Sevush] “So to answer – ideally I would like to have all aspects of my work under one roof, but not at the cost of having inferior tools to work with. Pragmatically, round tripping is a form of unified “roof” and at the moment Ppro supplies the best version of it that I’m aware of.”
Resolve and Smoke come to mind. Smoke doesn’t have multicam editing, but in terms of integration of editing and effects, I’d argue that it’s far ahead of the Adobe CC suite. No round tripping necessary, as all tools are available in one app. In terms of audio, Resolve has the edge because it now supports VST plugins right within the app, including custom plugin GUIs.
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[Bill Davis] “And no, don’t even think about arguing for “cross-dissolve” – as a compromise. You’re just enabling. “
LOL. You’re either joking or channeling your inner Aindreas. It is, of course “cross dissolve” in FCPX.
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– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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