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h.264 in FCP
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Shane, what you see above is the same marketing line that’s been up on the Apple website since FCS3 was first announced. That line has sold hundreds of thousands of Macs and copies of FCS, and it continues to do so. Is there really any wonder why so many are confused and why we get so many of them here?
And come on, give me a break, there isn’t a single industry publication anywhere that doesn’t suggest that the next version of FCS is “long-overdue.”
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I agree that a good post on DSLR and a separate one just for h264 in the FAQ section would probably answer 90% of all queries that relate to them (after all, it’s very common for the answer to include watch Shane Ross’s tutorial).
However good the next version of FCP is, I don’t see how you can get around the fact that h264 is a system where the data that you need to display a frame is, for many of the frames in a clip, spread across several frames worth of data, so whenever you edit a shot there’s a very high probability that you’re removing data from the stream that is required to display some of those frames and it’s a pretty big job for a computer to remake the data stream to put that information back in every time you make a cut.
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[David Roth Weiss] “And come on, give me a break, there isn’t a single industry publication anywhere that doesn’t suggest that the next version of FCS is “long-overdue.””
Well, it’s coming…
https://www.larryjordan.biz/app_bin/wordpress/archives/1365
And marketting folks always stretch the truth as far as they can… Darn close to lying a lot of the time.
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[Shane Ross] “Well, it’s coming…
https://www.larryjordan.biz/app_bin/wordpress/archives/1365“
About time they let someone announce that publicly. Imagine the marketing buzz they could build up if they actually let Larry really expound on what was presented.
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[walter biscardi] “About time they let someone announce that publicly.”
Would it have been so terrible for Apple if they had just said something similar a few weeks or months ago?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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[Dave LaRonde] “Nor do you absolutely need a capture card or a video monitor to edit in FCP; it still works without them. But on both editing systems, the lack of certain hardware severely hampers the ability to work speedily and efficiently.”
True.
But in the case of Premiere Pro CS5, the lack of a GPU does not hamper your ability to edit H264 in the least. The GPU comes into play when adding effects like color correction, PIPs, etc. Even then, you can put on an awful lot of effects (read ‘too many’) before a non-GPU based Mac system running Premiere Pro will quit on you.
I’m still searching for the best analogy but I’ll leave you with this one: Premiere Pro CS5 without a CUDA GPU is like having a super fast formula 1 race car with no nitrous injector. It’s still a very fast car.
PS – Yes…I am NOT a car guy. 😉
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[Dave LaRonde] “I hope you’re not offended if I regard those comments as being just a little too much like Adobe-marketing-weasel-speak.”
Not offended. It’s still true even if you are skeptical. 😉
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OK, here is the 64 Thousand Dollar Question.
If native h.264 editing is what you need, and Premier does it and FCP doesn’t. Why not migrate to Premier instead of waiting around to see what Apple is going to do?Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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Shane,
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Dave,
“Okay, class, who wants learn an entirely new editing application with an all-new arcane terminology and a different production workflow so you can save ten hours of an assistant editor’s time every week? Hmmm, I see a few hands.”Well, that is what I was thinking at first.
But the chatter I have seen about the sheer volume or number of h.264 projects some folks say they have in the pipeline makes me wonder why not just go to Premier now.
So is it worth Apple rewriting FCP to save ten hours of your assistants time?
Is it worth the hassle (and risk) to upgrade to a new version of FCP to save that same ten hours? Who knows if/when a new version of FCP will be stable/usable, or if it will even be better.
Why wish for FCP to be ‘Premier-like’ when you can just use Premier?
What makes this even more a mystery, is no one thinks twice about recommending (or using) After Effects, over Motion. Isn’t the workflow in AE and Premier/CS5 the same?
Confusing.“Now, class, if there’s a chance in the next six months that you won’t have to learn that entirely new editing application, are you willing to put up with the extra time now and wait to save it later? Wow, I see a lot more hands!”
That statement makes a big assumption. It assumes the new FCP will in fact save me time. But will it? This is an unknown.
Isn’t that the selling point of that 64 bit Mercury Playback engine? If it saves that much time, why isn’t every migrating? Is it because it doesn’t really save that much time? Could a new version of FCP fall into that same trap?OK, what about all the folks talking about what a POS the entire FCS has become, and that it all needs a ground up rewrite, including the UI’s. If that happens, and those folks get their wish, isn’t there a chance that you could be learning a new editing/mograph/color applications even if you stick with FCS? And what about all the lost productivity trying to get the bugs worked out of an upgrade?
I’m not bashing anyone, or trying to be sarcastic, but I’m perplexed by the dynamic that is in play here.
Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed…
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