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H.264 editing in PremierePro
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I’d have to convrert to HDV in a third party program and then to Prores in compressor for FCP use.
Not having worked with XDCAM I have basically not much of a clue but this sounds wrong. Have you seen:
I see nothing in there about HDV as an intermediate step.
Y’all have some fun,
Robert:-)
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You might want to try a quick comparison.
Drop a bunch of H.264 on a timeline matched to that clip style.
Then Drop a bunch of Prores on another timeline. Compare the performance of your system.
If it handles h.264 just fine, edit it natively.
Transcoding really is not necessary with most edit systems running CS6.
For many editors they are still in the FCP comfort zone and do it reflexively. But its a habit that needs to be broken in many cases. It really depends on the power of your machine.Tom Daigon
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[Walter Soyka] “Trick question? You could use just about any format you want for intermediates: ProRes, DNxHD, CineForm, HQX, uncompressed, DPX sequence, etc., but Adobe does not have a preferred, native codec like ProRes in FCP, DNxHD in Avid, or HQX in Edius.”
Not at all. And you’d convert to those codecs…where? Not seeing it in Prelude. I installed that on the same OS as FCP, and I don’t see ProRes as an option. So is this done in Media Encoder…and you have to make your own presets? Or MPEG STREAMCLIP? Where in PPro can I do this encoding?
And there is no “offline/online” workflow with PPro is there? Personally I don’t do that, but there are several large companies with 8 shows running concurrently and limited storage so they go low res then high res. Just curious
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[Shane Ross] “Not at all. And you’d convert to those codecs…where? Not seeing it in Prelude. I installed that on the same OS as FCP, and I don’t see ProRes as an option. So is this done in Media Encoder…and you have to make your own presets? Or MPEG STREAMCLIP? Where in PPro can I do this encoding?”
This is exactly what I was trying to get at with my other post about how I wish Premiere supported this workflow better. You can use just about any intermediate codec you want in Premiere, but Adobe does not currently provide a good workflow for managing your transcodes.
[Shane Ross] “And there is no “offline/online” workflow with PPro is there? Personally I don’t do that, but there are several large companies with 8 shows running concurrently and limited storage so they go low res then high res. Just curious”
Yeah, I don’t think it does this well. Media management is, in my mind, one of Premiere’s biggest weaknesses.
These are probably two of the biggest issues that FCP/Premiere switchers are howling about, a third being limited “smart render” options.
I think that some of the Adobe folks who participate here have mentioned that they are aware of these issues, but I really would encourage anyone to submit feature requests [link] for things like this.
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I’m wondering if I’m too “old fashioned” in my ways in wanting an intermediate codec. But some shooting codecs are just too much of a pain to try to edit natively, massive amounts of RAM and Mercury engine or no. They are just a pain.
Offline/Online might not be a priority. Other NLEs do that, so if you want that workflow, use them. If you want all PPro has to offer, use it. I might be cool with that.
Prelude does help in converting to other formats. I guess that MPEG-2 is PPros default, go to option. Has been for ages.
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Media encoder works well in converting or exporting to prores. on it’s own or via an “export to” from a timeline within PPro. I researched and played with this a couple weeks ago. You can create your own preset in PPro which also shows up in media converter after you’ve created it. Here’s a great article on how to do that.. and how to work wiht a prores in and out worklow if you want to. https://blogs.adobe.com/VideoRoad/2011/08/a-prores-workflow-end-to-end.html
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BTW to bring up media encoder within PPro you choose export and then select “Queue” from the buttons at the lower end of the window.
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