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gruber constructs a carefully apple supportive line of bollocks
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What is UP with you? Only someone paid to defend a company could possibly refute all the other professionals’ concerns here with such endless commitment and vigor.
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Chris –
Most of your remarks are valid and reasonable, but here your trying to have it both ways.
Apple has always, as far as I know, pulled old versions when new ones went on sale
Over and over you have stated that this is a new 1.0 release and should be judged that way. It is most emphatically NOT a “new version” but rather a new application using an old name.
Pulling FCS3 off the shelf is the single most damming thing about this whole situation. Nothing you have said explains it in any way, yet you go on distorting your own logic in trying to defend it and I can’t figure out why.
If Apple were interested in staying in the broadcast side of the business they would have given a a migration path for large companies with multiple licenses – by eliminating any future for FCP 7 before FCPX is ready for high end use they have guaranteed that many if not most of these users will move on to new platforms, and sooner rather than later. If you have ever had your core programs EOL’d, you’d know that the quicker you make the change the better off you are.
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[Herb Sevush] “Over and over you have stated that this is a new 1.0 release and should be judged that way. It is most emphatically NOT a “new version” but rather a new application using an old name. “
You’re misrepresenting my argument here. It wasn’t that this transition is precisely equivalent to previous version upgrades. It was merely that Apple has pulled old versions in the past and some users have managed to keep using those old versions for a year or two without issue, so there’s no reason to believe that won’t be possible this time around as well.
As I’ve said several times, I agree that Apple should have left FCS 3 on sale, I just don’t agree that the implications pulling it are quite as… apocalyptic as some are making them out to be.
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The difference is we are talking about migrating to a new application instead of upgrading an existing one.
“users have managed to keep using those old versions for a year or two without issue”
It is not enough to know I can still use my current FCP7 – I need to know for a certainty that I can add new licenses when my business needs them, and they will be updated to run on current hardware and operating systems until X is ready for my use.
“I just don’t agree that the implications pulling it are quite as… apocalyptic as some are making them out to be.”
Well the implications are either that Apple wants out of the broadcast market (my inference) or that they are a bunch of morons (you’re inference.)
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[Herb Sevush] “It is not enough to know I can still use my current FCP7 – I need to know for a certainty that I can add new licenses when my business needs them, and they will be updated to run on current hardware and operating systems until X is ready for my use.”
We’re arguing in circles here. Again, it hasn’t been uncommon in the past for certain customers to stick with old, discontinued versions for a couple of years. That’s no harder this time than it has been previously.
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Yes, it’s not uncommon for someone to hold onto EOL’d software and use it for years. But what would be not only uncommon, but actually down right ridiculous, would be to think that such a person would ever buy new software from the very people that just screwed him.
End of the circle.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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