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Great demo of all new Premiere Pro features coming next month
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[Devin Crane] “If you’re looking for multi-cam editing FCPX hands down winner.”
Is that based on a feature for feature comparison? If so i would love to hear the details. I’m not doubting you, I’m just interested in the reasons why you made that statement.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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If you are talking about something with a set track I would have to agree with you. However, if you have a multicam show that you have to cut down from an hour or more to twenty or so minutes using mostly audio edits that are underneath a shot that is not sync with that audio, then I would ague that FCPX is far from the best choice.
Tim
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[Herb Sevush] “Is that based on a feature for feature comparison? If so i would love to hear the details. I’m not doubting you, I’m just interested in the reasons why you made that statement.”
We use Softron’s Multi-cam logger for each live shoot to make edit and clip marks on our timeline footage for post production. After importing the clips into Multicam Logger, we export an XML which creates the MC clip when imported into FCPX with all of our notes laid out from the live shoot. During the re-cut all of the marks stay on the MC footage no matter what angle we cut to. Now it’s been a year or so since I’ve worked in Premiere but the Multicam User interface in FCPX seems more easily accessible takes just a short-cut to turn on or off, the way the MC clip acts like a regular clip in the Timeline, the ability to go back into the angle editor and either add a filter or change a parameter and have it apply to previously made cuts is what sold us. Along with the fact that we don’t have to pay for it each month for 5 different editors, 3 of which are part time.
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[TImothy Auld] “However, if you have a multicam show that you have to cut down from an hour or more to twenty or so minutes using mostly audio edits that are underneath a shot that is not sync with that audio, then I would ague that FCPX is far from the best choice.”
Our programs are usually 2-3 hours in length but mainly just 2 tracks associated with our Line Cut.
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[TImothy Auld] “then I would ague that FCPX is far from the best choice.”
Curious, but why?
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[Devin Crane] “We use Softron’s Multi-cam logger for each live shoot to make edit and clip marks on our timeline footage for post production. After importing the clips into Multicam Logger, we export an XML which creates the MC clip when imported into FCPX with all of our notes laid out from the live shoot.”
According to Softron’s website their multicam logger works with Ppro as well, so I don’t see how that makes FCPX better.
[Devin Crane] ” Now it’s been a year or so since I’ve worked in Premiere but the Multicam User interface in FCPX seems more easily accessible takes just a short-cut to turn on or off”
In Ppro one keyboard shortcut to make an entire browser full of multiclips, another shortcut toggles the timeline multicam viewer off and on. So how much simpler is FCPX?
[Devin Crane] ” the ability to go back into the angle editor and either add a filter or change a parameter and have it apply to previously made cuts is what sold us”
Same with Ppro
[Devin Crane] ” Along with the fact that we don’t have to pay for it each month for 5 different editors, 3 of which are part time.”
The claim was FCPX was better, not that it was cheaper. And while I don’t like the subscription idea I will gladly pay it so I can edit with tracks, with sync indicators and with the ability to make basic audio-only insert edits.
So remind me again why FCPX is the “hands down winner” ?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Curious, but why?”
For me it would be lack of sync indicators plus lack of ease in making audio-only insert edits.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Ah, I see. Wondering if I’ve ever encountered this. Probably. Bet I just did that Trim to 0 thing. Thanks, Herb.
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What he said. Recognizing that I could be wrong (yes, it has happened) I find FCPX to be cumbersome to work with in the situation I described in my post. Not undoable certainly – you can find workarounds for anything (I did it for years with Legacy.) If I had a music video or an orchestral piece to cut I would do it in FCPX without hesitation.
Tim
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[Herb Sevush] “For me it would be lack of sync indicators”
That’s the easy one. Assuming (just assuming) you can live with out those:
[Herb Sevush] ” lack of ease in making audio-only insert edits.”
Insert edits in to what and where?
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