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  • David Lazaro saz

    November 19, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Which means?

  • David Lazaro saz

    November 19, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    And what do you think about a Dell Precision T7500?

  • Bret Williams

    November 19, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    They need Adobe and Adobe products, but there would be no profit gain in buying and running Adobe. There’s no profit in Adobe running Adobe. The power comes from being ABLE to buy Adobe. Probably keeps Adobe building for Mac. I think Adobe builds for Mac because so many people prefer to work on the Mac and OSX. If they drop the high end machines with the high end processing, then they’ll lose the high end creators. Lose users and you lose a chunk of your ecosystem all the way down to what phone, pad, laptop, etc. they buy. Lose some of that high end mystique, and you lose high end pricing and on down the line.

    OT – On Adobe, I bought a little Adobe Stock and a bit more Apple Stock the day Jobs announced the iPhone in January. If all goes well I’ll retire off that. If the Adobe stock doesn’t bring me down. What’s up Adobe? Here’s a company doing everything as right as they can but yet the stock is 60% of the value it was in 2007. I learned a bit from those stock purchases. Adobe is doing their job. They’re keeping up with the business. Keeping the software edgy, being competitive. But that’s like expecting your McDonalds stock to go up just because they keep making hamburgers. Once a company has reached saturation they need to expand into new markets. Now, if Premiere were the clear winner over Avid, it would grow their market share a little, but if you’re like me, you already owned Premiere right along side your Photoshop and After Effects bundle. Adobe needs to do what Apple did to expand. Put new products into the hands of new customers. Keeping up with the Pro Market is too much of a niche. They need to get a product like FCP X onto the iPads AND android iPads before Apple does. And for $79. Revamp Premiere Elements and call it Premiere Elements Pro or something. Or have they done this already?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 19, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    When was the last time someone walked in and bought a MacPro, graphics card, or HPz800 from a physical store?

    My answer is never.

    Just curious on what your experience is.

    Jeremy

  • Bill Davis

    November 19, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    I was in an Apple store last week as well

    And watching the “Genius” crew help people with half a dozen laptops – made me remember the time maybe 5 years ago when I had a memory glitch in my MacPro and dragged it into the Apple Store on a Saturday so that they could check out a memory module I suspected had gone bad, and maybe replace it on the spot and get me back to editing to help me meet my Monday deadline…

    I remember feeling really odd having to drag my big silver beast on a rolling cart through the retail store.

    If that NEVER happens to me again, I won’t miss it.

    The tower was a great form factor for a fixed edit suite. But that’s clearly not the only place “editing” happens today.

    For what it’s worth.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • Steve Connor

    November 19, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “When was the last time someone walked in and bought a MacPro, graphics card, or HPz800 from a physical store?

    My answer is never.

    Just curious on what your experience is.

    Once had a motherboard blow on a MacPro at a very critical time on a project, being able to drive to the local Apple store and buy a replacement off the shelf saved the day!

    “My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”

  • Jamie Franklin

    November 19, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    [Bret Williams] ” They need to get a product like FCP X onto the iPads AND android iPads before Apple does”

    why?

    Maybe a control surface app…but why port a whole thing to an ipad?

    I’m sure I’ll get called a luddite all over again for disagreeing with this but it would seem more like a headache than an actual robust tool. I can see it for very VERY simple web based content for the kids or on set conveniences but not a practical platform for an edit suite unless the screen is 15 inches+ and it has a wack of ports and by then why not just make it a tablet/laptop which is already available…

  • Dennis Radeke

    November 19, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    [David Lazaro Saz] “And what do you think about a Dell Precision T7500?”

    I wish I could say. It’s been really easy to deal with HP. Dell is a terrific partner too, but I’ve not been able to test their boxes.

  • Craig Seeman

    November 19, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    [Gary Huff] “What if Apple doesn’t do that?”

    When you consider that many people are get other Macs as adjuncts to MacPros, It’s just not likely for them to note have a replacement. MacPros have an impact on sales on the entire line. A person with one MacPro might also have a MacBookPro a MacMini or two and maybe even an iMac. That’s the nature of an ecosystem based product line. The Halo effect works at both ends of the product line. MacPros, as they are, aren’t sustainable because the top of the line iMac covers more ground that ever before.

    At one time the iMac was not expandable. Now the top iMac has two Thunderbolt ports.They have to do something to sell the next tier up. Of course one might argue that they could simply add a four Thunderbolt port iMac but there’s a GPU limitation as well. There’s also the issue a built in monitor which the MacMini doesn’t have. That’s why I think it’s inevitable that the MacPro replacement will be like a Mini but rack mountable with multiple Thunderbolt ports and better GPU options.

    Basically I don’t see the “doesn’t” as a viable business option. The is a company that still makes the iPod Classic as well. The MacBook was discontinued only when the gap closed between the Air and MacBookPro.

    Pick what might happen if/when the MacPro is discontinued but that nothing will happen just isn’t likely. This is especially so when you consider that they keep pushing up the system demands that FCPX and Motion need.

  • Frank Gothmann

    November 19, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    And once again: it is clearly not the place “editing” is happening today for you and in your world.
    It is for a lot of other people and I dare say the vast majority of people professionally editing today are NOT editing on a laptop.

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