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Goodbye FCPX
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[Lance Bachelder] “FCPX seems geared toward the Apple fanboys who will use it ahead of any other NLE regardless of its features etc because it’s from Apple “
Yes, exactly correct.
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“I’m 100% certain that not ONE SINGLE FCPX user on Planet Earth would be using it if FCP7 had become 8 and FCPX was from some other company.”
I’m afraid you’re wrong about that, Lance.
Before Apple announced FCP X, I had been working in FCP 7 and beginning to wish it was a lot easier to quickly try out new ideas (plugging in new clips, re-arranging clips, trimming clips.) without spending so much time fixing gaps in the Timeline. It occurred to me that the conventional approach to clip and track editing was actually pretty clunky.
About a year later, Apple announced FCP X, and when it finally shipped, I appreciated the new approach to the Timeline. It’s what’s still kept me with X, despite wondering if Apple can keep up with Adobe’s rapid development of Premiere, and all the tools available in Creative Cloud.
In other words, I would probably be using X if it wasn’t from Apple, and even if Apple had launched FCP 8. I use plenty of non-Apple apps already, there’s nothing keeping me glued to an Apple app just because it’s from Apple. In fact, apps developed outside Apple often seem to be better supported…
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[Lance Bachelder] ” FCPX seems geared toward the Apple fanboys who will use it ahead of any other NLE regardless of its features etc because it’s from Apple – so it must be better right? “
Yep that’s it you’ve got it Lance, I don’t use it for the way it works, I just use it because I’m a fanboy
Steve Connor
Class Bully
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[Lance Bachelder] “Premiere CC is just a better, much more thought out and of course conventional NLE.”
Wow, I disagree. I find PP and the interface a mess. Trying too hard to be Avid, FCP7 and whatever else it can throw in there. Now, unless it’s changed a lot from CS6, Premiere is at the bottom of my list. And I just don’t use it enough to justify the subscription. When I do, it’s because the production company that has hired me only has PP. Even then I try to see if they still have FCP7 around. Avid is simply gone from my market to 4-wall.
In a market segment (spots, short form marketing, short file-based films) where story is king, and well-timed cuts and fades rule, the simple elegance, power and speed of FCPX are greatly appreciated. Apple seems to be doing that across the board, as I was doing some writing in Pages and noticed how more clean and simple the new interface is. Is it the 80/20 rule of marketing? Perhaps, but things don’t need to be complex to be “better”. Sometimes less is more.
[Lance Bachelder] “I’m 100% certain that not ONE SINGLE FCPX user on Planet Earth would be using it if FCP7 had become 8 and FCPX was from some other company.”
Hmm, how many Avid editors switched over to FCP? DS? “Certain” is a big word. I am “pretty sure” this is an untrue statement.
[Lance Bachelder] ” FCPX seems geared toward the Apple fanboys “
This statement always cracks me up. FCP7 or FCP8 is never coming back. This is the next step for Apple. One can accept that and use the next-gen product or simply move on. There really needs to be no debate anymore.
Just my humble opinion. These are just tools and we are lucky to be in a time where we can afford all four and use them as necessary. Horses for courses. My computer “Dock” has Premiere, Resolve, FCP7 Motion, FCPX and MC7 sitting there, with the rest of the CS6 package waiting in the background. It’s a great time to be in this business.
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
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[Scott Witthaus] “It’s a great time to be in this business.”
Amen, brother!
Going back a few…. Quantel Henry was $800,000 (just the box). Editbox was $400,000. Avid was… $150,000 (? memory). All of the above, add a few hundred K for decks, etc.
Now? It’s all about the skills. Use what works. And then debate about it here during renders, of course. ;P
“Constituo, ergo sum”
Bob Woodhead / Atlanta
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You can be dismissive but he has an interesting point.
Really, how many FPCX users would have adopted the NLE had it been released by Sony, or god forbid, Canopus?
The value of the Apple brand in establishing X as a viable alternative has always seemed perfectly obvious to me. Whether that was justified trust in an established source, or simply an textbook example of cognitive dissonance is the harder call.
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I’m at NAB at the Avid Connect event. That’s a different discussion. But, in general discussions with other users and notably many facility managers, the prevailing feeling about NLEs is that the state of things has never been so much in flux. It’s still very much up for grabs for any NLE, so don’t count anyone in or out.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Bravo. Recognising you have a problem is the first step to a cure Steve.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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“unless it’s changed a lot from CS6, Premiere…”
You have no idea. Honestly. I own CS6 and there is no way I would settle for it, but premiere cc is a whole other ball game.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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