Activity › Forums › Creative Community Conversations › For kicks: Apple in the medium term.
-
For kicks: Apple in the medium term.
Jeremy Garchow replied 13 years, 3 months ago 21 Members · 50 Replies
-
Jamie Franklin
February 9, 2013 at 12:15 amIf any of us need to make a move now on hardware, if we decided on Apple, I don’t know about any of you, but I’d feel like a battered housewife…
-
James Culbertson
February 9, 2013 at 12:23 amAdmittedly, I was somewhat indifferent until I started using FCPX on real projects. It wasn’t until I put some serious time into it that I began to realize how good and fast an edit app it is (I certainly realize FCPX is not yet ready for many collaborative workflows).
I can understand having different preferences. But when someone says it is a terrible editor my guess is that they have not really used it. And it is interesting to remember that many AVID editors said the exact same thing about FCP legacy in the first years after its release.
I have preferred FCP legacy to AVID for a long time; but that does not make MC a terrible editor.
-
Aindreas Gallagher
February 9, 2013 at 1:07 am[Jamie Franklin] “My pov, it’s a terrible terrible editor.”
yep.
thats my basic point. its a very poor core timeline. everyone who uses it says up front that it takes months to normalise.apple stockholm syndrome is not for everyone.
Indeed, the re-education is for a very select few.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
-
Jamie Franklin
February 9, 2013 at 1:09 am[James Culbertson] “when someone says it is a terrible editor my guess is that they have not really used it.”
I think your guess is wrong. I was careful to say, as this is always the response, from people that I have spoken with and have given it a whirl…as I have. I bought it on the first day, I have updated it and played with it since, and as an editor, I find it a creative lost cause. I like my track based timeline without mag chrome. I find 7 a unlimited canvas of choices, function and ease. The mag timeline is infuriating to work with as an editor.
-
James Culbertson
February 9, 2013 at 1:56 amOK, I’ll take your word for it.
I’m still using FCP7 as well primarily because it is so comfortable and it is what most clients expect at this time. But as FCP7 becomes less usable and the only options are AVID and Premiere I’ll be using FCPX more and more when I have the choice. The more I use FCPX the harder it is to go back to legacy style editing apps.
Of course I’ll use whatever a client requests if they have a preference. But having to be fully proficient in all of the 4 main pro editing apps is going to be a PITA.
-
Jamie Franklin
February 9, 2013 at 2:14 amI still enjoy using 7 whenever possible. The limitations are so well known to me, as to everyone else, that it really is a get in and out experience.
I’m just happy I still have material I can throw in the timeline I am so at ease with. Most NLE’s haven’t come close. I didn’t expect this thing to still be kicking 2 years ago, hence my overzealous fanatical reaction to the EOL. I’m glad I can still produce delivery spec’d quality.
Once I migrate officially to Avid, I know I will still miss this beast.
I’ve always maintained X will have it’s place, I just wish it took iMovie’s and the upward momentum of 7 would shine on into 8 and beyond. But when it comes to shared networks and editorial in facilities. X is an unwelcome joke, imo. And I don’t say that with glee. I was suckered into the FCX expectation Apple presented like many who thought finally! We’re getting what we asked for…instead of a fork in our b*lls
-
Jamie Franklin
February 9, 2013 at 3:54 amI wouldn’t even qualify it as the parachute pants of this decade. With all the cheerleading I have read by those that think it’s Hammer time, I still have yet to cross paths with one editor who even uses it for his vacation vids….I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
-
James Culbertson
February 9, 2013 at 5:27 am>With all the cheerleading I have read by those that think it’s Hammer time, I still have yet to cross paths with one editor who even uses it for his vacation vids…. <<<< There are a lot of us out there but we tend not to talk about it much with other editors who go on and on about how terrible it is... what's the point? (outside of this forum at least.)
-
Jamie Franklin
February 9, 2013 at 7:23 amWell, from the point of view from someone who heard ad nauseum about the parallels of early FCP1 users that this was no different, there wasn’t the degree of abstaining of the interest and use of something new and intriguing. I’m sure there are those who could analyze the merits of the lack of feature sets then, but it still contained the truth of what was becoming increasing more useful and a staple of Nle. Track based yadda yadda yadda.
I think this is rather constructive to understanding the contempt towards this “paradigm”. It won’t be widely accepted. While some undoubtedly find its uses. It’s becoming clear it’s not utilitarian, it’s not a jeep, its the deep fried Twinkie of the editing world.
-
Steve Connor
February 9, 2013 at 9:25 amHow sweet Aindreas has a little friend to play with
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up