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Bill Davis
August 1, 2012 at 11:38 pm[Umberto Aguiar] “Final Cut X wasn’t “Rebuilt from the ground up” as Apple misleadingly advertises. Final Cut X’s interface is very similar to iMovie’s , so are many of the buttons, features and concepts such as “events”. All those features shared by fc X and iMovie don’t exist in fc 7. As a matter of fact, FC X even has an option to import projects from iMovie…
I don’t actually dislike Final Cut X. It is certainly faster to edit news than fc 7 was, although fc 7 has far better options to compress and output edited videos, what is so important in news. What I really don’t like about fc X is the lie behind it. This lie that fc X is “revolutionary” and “rebuilt from the ground up”.
“Umberto.
I understand how you’re looking at this, but we just have different philosophies.
And as to your X verses iMovie distinction, I coudn’t disagree more.
Yes, some interface elements are similar. But that’s not anywhere the same as saying that X is particularly similar to iMovie in any meaningful way.
My understanding is that while Randy U worked out some conceptual ideas in iMovie that found expressions in X (like the concepts of events and keyword tagging) the way they are coded and function is significantly different in X.
Consider it this way. You can build a modest 100 square foot playhouse for your kids out of two by four lumber and for fun, give it both a “lockable front door” and a “mailbox.” Which are nice features.
The family home in front of it, likely also sports a lockable front door and a mailbox.
So if your ‘test” is reduced to “does it have a door and a mailbox” – then I guess you can argue that those two buildings are kinda the same.
But nobody who takes the time to understand things beyond the surface would actually argue that for very long.
It’s essentially as foolish as arguing that a Yugo and a Rolls Royce are the same thing because they both have four wheels and an ashtray.
Look, we’ve known for a while that X is working in sports, episodic TV and other high end spaces – but folks probably worried that it was only safe if you had a team of engineering pros to make sure you met specs.
This thinking is disappearing fast.
Just today, one of my quick DSLR-to X packages ran on our local former ABC O&O (now a major independent) in broadcast HD directly compressed from my timeline into H-264 – and uploaded to the station via YouSendIt. They didn’t ask a single question about the file, they just ran it as regular programming along with everything else.
I simply don’t know anyone doing this kind of thing out of iMovie.
Do you?
So if you want to paint X as “iMovie light” or “not AVID” or “not as Legacy-like as Premier” be my guest.
I’m just going to keep delivering my work a whole lot more easily, rapidly and successfully than I did last year – by using FCP-X. It’s a great tool for today’s deadline driven, how and what will I need to communicate today – era.
Simple as that.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Umberto Aguiar
August 2, 2012 at 12:21 pmOh, dear. Final Cut X is an upgrade of iMovie. A giant upgrade, but still an upgrade. I am not an engineer so the technical structure of FC X doesn’t really interest me. What I do know is that I didn’t know how to edit on iMovie but after learning to edit on FC X I found out that I could also edit on iMovie…
Their very similar interfaces are right there, on your face. Most of the buttons of iMovie are reproduced on FC X and they have the same function. Most of the concepts of iMovie, not only “events”, are also reproduced in FC X. All those similar ( when not exactly the same ) features don’t exist in FC 7. Moreover, FC X even has an option to import iMovie projects but does not have backwards compatibility with Final Cut 7…
Of course, I can do much more with fc X than with iMovie. After all, FC X is a giant upgrade of iMovie.
As I said, I don’t dislike FC X but I do have a problem with its lack of backwards compatibility, its limited options for compressing and the lack of “print to tape”, feature that was extremely useful when I was shooting/editing in a place where internet was irregular and far too slow so the only way to send stories was via satellite. Apart from that, there are many good features in FC X and many things are better than in FC 7.
What I really don’t like about FC X is the lie that FC X is a revolutionary upgrade of FC Studio. It is not. It is a giant upgrade, if you will, of iMovie. I am not upset with FC X. I am upset with Apple.
My move to Adobeland, where the “sun shines everyday on the birds and the bees”, is partially a personal protest against Apple because what Apple did with fc 7 is disgraceful. It caused and it is still causing a lot of trouble and expenses to many good people. The lack of backwards compatibility is especially revolting. Please don’t tell me that 7toX fixed the problem because it didn’t.
It looks like you are one of those Apple believers who think that Apple can do no wrong, in which case there is no point in go on with this discussion because it is not a technical argument anymore but a religious one.
Be good to your camera and your camera will be good to you
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Bill Davis
August 3, 2012 at 1:24 am[Umberto Aguiar] “I am not upset with FC X. I am upset with Apple. “
Fine. Now I understand. Your feelings were hurt.
Sorry about that. Hope you get over it someday.
[Umberto Aguiar] “My move to Adobeland, where the “sun shines everyday on the birds and the bees”, is partially a personal protest against Apple because what Apple did with fc 7 is disgraceful. It caused and it is still causing a lot of trouble and expenses to many good people. The lack of backwards compatibility is especially revolting. Please don’t tell me that 7toX fixed the problem because it didn’t. “
Wow. Good luck then. Both “disgraceful” and “revolting” – good thing this isn’t any kind of an emotional thing for you. Again, sorry you were so deeply hurt. Again, Hope you get over it someday.
[Umberto Aguiar] “It looks like you are one of those Apple believers who think that Apple can do no wrong, in which case there is no point in go on with this discussion because it is not a technical argument anymore but a religious one.
“Well, as someone who once spent $17,000 on a MacIIfx system – which in a couple of years was worth maybe 20% of what I’d spent for it – and I had to slog through another three years of lease payments to cover the cost, I’m perhaps a bit more sanguine that you might suspect about Apple’s “perfection”.
But I kinda do have to call you on your language here.
It’s clearly not “technical” at all for you. It’s emotional. As your own words clearly indicate. And I suspect that since religion clearly lives closer to emotion than to fact, it’s you who actually has the religious issue since you’ve cast yourself as the heretic having been so evilly and wrongly consigned to wander the desert by the all powerful Apple priests.
Again, sorry for your loss. Hope you can find salvation at Adobe. They make fine products. I wish you nothing but the best over there.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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