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Final Cut Pro X – Reflecting on Six Years
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[James Sullivan] “I tried bringing in 4K from a Sony F5 on my ancient 17” laptop and it had to copy and manage the media whereas at work where we have trash cans they just let everything sit where it is. “
Weird. I’ve never seen that behavior. Are you doing anything different with the media? For example are you taking media direct from the card in one case, but removing the media from its package container in the other?
– Oliver
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[Gabe Strong] “You can deduct the cost of FCP X from your taxes just as you can deduct the cost of a subscription.”
I didn’t say you couldn’t deduct it. I do that, too. I did say this: “I don’t believe that it applies the same way. In one case you are paying for a product. In the other, a service. But I could be wrong.” But I didn’t mean that to imply that you couldn’t deduct it.
And maybe there’s really no difference from a tax standpoint. However, in some companies, setting up a payment for an ongoing service is an easier lift than for purchasing a product. Plus, how does this work in other countries? I don’t know.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Oliver Peters] “Even at that, you could still argue of course, that owning FCPX is cheaper than renting Premiere Pro.”
You could. Because it is. ????
[Oliver Peters] “If you sell the business, the software installed on the machines has no tangible value. “
Only that you still own FCP X after that, no matter what. Business or no business. You can’t sell an Apple ID nor does it go down with the company. And really, if you drove your company into the ground BEFORE that piddly amount could even be written off? Then I think you have entirely different issues and aren’t to worried about $299. ???? For example the $600 a year you just lost on CC expenses and, in comparison, are left with nothing to show for it. ????
I’m certainly not up to speed on U.S. tax code, but it must be weirder than I thought if spending $3000 over five years makes for the smarter move and better business sense than spending $300. I sure know it isn’t anywhere here.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Only that you still own FCP X after that, no matter what. Business or no business. You can’t sell an Apple ID nor does it go down with the company. And really, if you drove your company into the ground BEFORE that piddly amount could even be written off? Then I think you have entirely different issues and aren’t to worried about $299. ???? For example the $600 a year you just lost on CC expenses and, in comparison, are left with nothing to show for it.”
The point isn’t about licenses. Even if you can transfer the licenses to the new owner, software has no value in the sale. Not in the same way as hard assets, like computers, tape decks (in years past), furniture, etc.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Robin S. Kurz] “I’m certainly not up to speed on U.S. tax code, but it must be weirder than I thought if spending $3000 over five years makes for the smarter move and better business sense than spending $300. I sure know it isn’t anywhere here.”
Think of it as essentially the same rationale as leasing rather than purchasing. I realize the low cost of Apple software skews the equation, of course. Let’s take X out of the discussion for the moment. If the comparison is purchasing Adobe apps versus subscribing to Adobe CC, then the numbers are a bit different and renting is more easily justified.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Oliver Peters] “I avoid putting media on the internal boot drive as a general rule.”
But then that wasn’t your point either. It was that you can “really hot-rod the [PC] system in ways that are no longer possible on the Mac side“, not where to store one’s media.
But okay… so what about the external solution? No word on that? I’m just trying to understand what it is that is “no longer possible on the Mac side“. Or are you suggesting that putting everything you have inside your machine is the much more preferable configuration?
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “However, in some companies, setting up a payment for an ongoing service is an easier lift than for purchasing a product.”
Funny you should say that, since that has been the number one reason that the University I work at and various other post houses I know would have gone with CC, but ended up going exclusively with FCP X for that exact reason: CC is a huge pain for them to administer in comparison. Never mind the ongoing cost which is much harder for them (the University i.e. schools in general) to get approved. So at least for them it was the complete opposite.
FCP X is a one off, done. Turn on auto-update and you’re not even bothered with that anymore.
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “Even if you can transfer the licenses to the new owner, software has no value in the sale. “
Sorry if I find that to be a very weak point. Especially when we’re talking about a measly $299 and in light of what costs one is confronted with otherwise in this industry. Merely having to pay a one-off and be done with it is a huge advantage in my book. And from what I’ve been hearing, there a LOT of people that despise the whole subscription scheme for a whole plethora of other reasons as well on top. So I for one can’t see any advantage whatsoever, no matter how contrived. But that’s for people to decide for themselves. I just think the whole sub-nonsense will end up biting Adobe (and others) in the backend sooner or later. We’ll see.
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “Let’s take X out of the discussion for the moment.”
Huh? That’s what the whole discussion is about, no? Relative costs. Not the products themselves.
As I said, the difference between three HUNDRED and three THOUSAND dollars over a exemplary timeframe of five years.
If we’re talking products and not costs and Final Cut Pro X or PPro isn’t an option either way, then the entire discussion is moot.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “As I said, the difference between three HUNDRED and three THOUSAND dollars over a exemplary timeframe of five years.”
Naturally if we go down that route, then Resolve (at free) becomes the best option.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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