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FCPX update soon?
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“What gives you this impression and what is reasonable to expect? (Baring in mind how difficult it is to predict anything Apple do).”
I think others have already answered, but the four pre-announced new features (better audio editing, dual viewers, RED support and MXF support) are all quite major and more than multicam. If this matches a typical update, there’ll likely be about 200 tweaks, some major, some minor. So, depending on how much of this has been in the pipeline from the very beginning, they could be on track for this “70 day target” or they may need more time. For instance, if they run into final QA issues leading up to release. That, of course, could be handled by an announcement/preview with a release date a couple of weeks into the future.
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“Followed by the 10.1 update where you have to pay $299 again.”
There’s no guarantee of that. The versions could go from 10.0.9 to 10.0.10 and still be a free update. None of us have any idea how Apple is monetizing this. AFAIK, Apple does not operate on divisional P&Ls. Only the CFO knows for sure.
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[Oliver Peters] ”
I think others have already answered, but the four pre-announced new features (better audio editing, dual viewers, RED support and MXF support) are all quite major and more than multicam. If this matches a typical update, there’ll likely be about 200 tweaks, some major, some minor.”It’s all just intelligent speculation really.
Speculation driven by the desire to get a load of new features and improved functionality.
Apple dishing the dirt to Larry Jordan was pretty unusual but we will just have to wait and see whether we get everything they mentioned to him in the next update.
What we can be sure of is that whatever is on its way will already be being tested under teutonic NDAs.
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If their update schedule continues as it has done, we won’t see 10.1 until next June (with maybe a NAB preview). So it will be 2 years since the initial launch, and over a year since I moved the majority of my work over to the software. Work that I get paid for. Well.
$299 every 2 years is nothing for what I’m making off the software.
But it will be interesting to see how Apple handles a major update. Right now the MacAppStore has no software upgrade mechanism in place, so as of now there are only two options- either existing users pay nothing, or pay the full price again (which again I’d have no problem with).
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[Mark Dobson] “”Apple dishing the dirt to Larry Jordan was pretty unusual but we will just have to wait and see whether we get everything they mentioned to him in the next update.””
Actually, Apple have been forthcoming on upcoming features since launch. Apple had a FAQ about upcoming features after 10.0 was released. And they pre-announced Broadcast Monitoring and Muticam on their website months before 10.0.3 was released. So the preNAB meeting with Larry was actually NOT unusual. If anything, FCPX is on the most regular, and open release schedule of anything they produce right now.
It is speculation, but informed speculation based on a year and a half of updates. When I started tracking FCPX update releases I never would have imagined that I would have been able to predict them so accurately…
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Mark,
Just to be clear, there was no “dishing” going on. Larry was one of numerous press folks invited to individual PR briefings at NAB. That includes me. Larry happened to blog about it right away and was of course closely associated with this. However many people were given the exact same presentation throughout that week. Philip Hodgetts is another person who’s written about this. These four bullet points aren’t speculation. They are clearly posted on Apple’s FCP X What’s New page as “coming later this year.” So they are pretty committed to it. What was not spelled out was what exact form these features would take. For example, “dual viewers” will be more than simple source/record, but how it will be different is unknown. RED support. Does that mean true native editing like Premiere Pro or will it be something like RED support in FCP 7 Log and Transfer? We’ll see when it comes. These features (the only public ones listed) will be here this year. It’s only a matter of when and what form they’ll take.
– Oliver
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Apologies, I stand corrected.
No dishing ever occurred!
From Larrys blog one got the impression that he was given an exclusive!
And as for speculation.
[Marcus Moore] “It is speculation, but informed speculation based on a year and a half of updates. When I started tracking FCPX update releases I never would have imagined that I would have been able to predict them so accurately…”
A lot of people were absolutely convinced that there was going to be a brand new Mac Pro back in June, some even said it was a done deal, but yes it was just speculation!
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[Brian Mulligan] “Followed by the 10.1 update where you have to pay $299 again.”
I think Brian’s right that 10.1 (whenever it is released) will be a paid upgrade. From the FCPX EULA:
B. Apple, at its discretion, may make available future upgrades or updates to the Apple Software for your Apple-branded computer. Apple may provide you any such upgrades and updates that it may release up to, but not including, the next major release of the Apple Software, for free. With respect to this Apple Software, for example, if you originally purchased a license for version 10.0 of the Apple software, Apple may provide you for free any software upgrades or updates it might release (e.g. version 10.0.1 or 10.0.2) up to, but not including, version 10.1 of the Apple Software. After the next major release of the Apple Software, Apple may also at its discretion continue to provide minor updates and enhancements to the Apple Software. Upgrades and updates, if any, may not necessarily include all existing software features or new features that Apple releases for newer models of Apple-branded computers and may, at Apple’s discretion, be provided with or without charge.
Of course, we know not the day nor the hour.
Even if Apple moved to yearly paid upgrades, current pricing would offer great value. $299 is very low maintenance.
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[Mark Dobson] “”A lot of people were absolutely convinced that there was going to be a brand new Mac Pro back in June, some even said it was a done deal, but yes it was just speculation!””
Well, if you take it back to the source of that rumour. Which was an episode of Jim Dalrymple’s AMPLIFIED. Jim was asked if Apple was going to kill the MacPro. And Jim said, “No.”. Everything else was pile-on speculation. Jim never said anything was going to be released imminently, or even in the near future. Everyone, including myself assumed there would be a WWDC announcement. The good news out of that is we know for sure that there is a future replacement for the MacPro in the pipeline…
As far as FCPX is concerned, we have a lot more data to draw from. Here’s the basis for my update schedule predictions- release dates, days interval, and type of update:
10.0.0 – 2011.06.21
10.0.1 – 2011.09.20 91 DAYS – FEATURE
10.0.2 – 2011.11.16 57 DAYS – MAINTENANCE
10.0.3 – 2012.01.31 76 DAYS – FEATURE
10.0.4 – 2012.04.10 70 DAYS – MAINTENANCE
10.0.5 – 2012.06.11 62 DAYS – MAINTENANCE (Retina update tied to MBP)What can we parse from this? Avg release cycle 71 days (or 10 weeks), and updates with only 2 exceptions (one of those being tied to WWDC announcement) are pushed out on Tuesdays.
Until Apple breaks that pattern in a fundamental way we can only assume it will continue. And after 2 maintenance updates the best bet is on a feature release, with another maintenance update in Nov.
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[Mark Dobson] “A lot of people were absolutely convinced that there was going to be a brand new Mac Pro back in June, some even said it was a done deal, but yes it was just speculation!”
Haven’t you picked up on the fact that no one learns anything? 😉
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