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Steve Connor
November 17, 2014 at 5:05 pmObviously a mid-high range nMP is going to be faster but
[Mitch Ives] “To make the new iMac really useful, you’ll need to max it out… at which point it isn’t cheap. The difference in price pretty much disappears,”
That’s true for the lower spec models, but your 8 Core with dual 700’s and 1TB flash is $3000 more than the iMac!
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John Rofrano
November 17, 2014 at 6:49 pm[Steve Connor] “That’s true for the lower spec models, but your 8 Core with dual 700’s and 1TB flash is $3000 more than the iMac!”
Yes, but if you want to compare equal systems the iMac 5K with 4.0GHz 4-core Core i7, 16GB RAM, 256GB SDD, and AMD Radeon R9 M295X is $3200 while a comparably speced 2013 Mac Pro 3.7GHz 4-core Core i7, 16GB RAM, 256GB SDD, and Dual AMD D300’s is $3100 so the difference in price does disappear, other than the 5K monitor which when you think about it makes even the maxed out the iMac 5K an absolute steal! I get it that the nMP has 3 TB channels so it has far greater bandwidth capacity. Different beasts at a similar price.
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Nicholas Kleczewski
November 17, 2014 at 7:00 pmThats precisely what scares me in people buying iMacs. you slipped and said “compare equal systems”
There is nothing remotely equal about a 4-core iMac and a 4-core Mac Pro except the words “4-core” and “Mac” Mac Pro’s are not i7’s, they are Xeon, completely different chip. Dual even 300’s will be more powerful than the M295X even if it wasn’t driving a 5k display. which it is, so you have to account for it basically driving more than 4 1080p video screens before its even started.Then future proof and expandability have value. iMac, nothing. Mac Pro, so far everything but the GPU’s are upgradeable. But who knows, the design allows for at least the idea of buying new GPU boards from apple in the future, however unlikely.
Get the iMac if you love the admittedly beautiful screen. There is no other reason that makes the investment comparable.
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Steve Connor
November 17, 2014 at 7:05 pm[Nicholas Kleczewski] “There is nothing remotely equal about a 4-core iMac and a 4-core Mac Pro except the words “4-core” and “Mac” “
Spec wise perhaps but in real world usage …… https://www.barefeats.com/imac5k4.html
iMac 5K is not far off the nMP
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Nicholas Kleczewski
November 17, 2014 at 7:18 pmSure render times are one aspect. One could make an argument in today’s speedy world of processing that render time differentials don’t have the importance they once did. If that were true a 2010 Mac Pro properly outfitted would beat them all. I’d be more interested in input lag time and real-time performance. Both of which I was not impressed with on the base model granted the 295 should be a fair amount better.
Also I/O… I’m a full time editor and Resolve colorist, it’d be pretty difficult for me to run a full pro set up on just 2 thunderbolt ports. Many would want at least one more screen, then video IO then storage and unfortunately daisychaining with thunderbolt doesn’t work so well at least in my experience.
Although with that new LG ultra widescreen Ive got coming my way maybe dual monitors can finally take a hike! 🙂Director, Editor, Colorist
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Steve Connor
November 17, 2014 at 7:24 pm[Nicholas Kleczewski] “Also I/O… I’m a full time editor and Resolve colorist, it’d be pretty difficult for me to run a full pro set up on just 2 thunderbolt ports.”
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the iMac 5K is a great Resolve workstation! But as an edit station it seems to be very useful. I’ll have more thoughts on Friday when I’ve thrown some 4K at one
[Nicholas Kleczewski] “I’d be more interested in input lag time and real-time performance. Both of which I was not impressed with on the base model granted the 295 should be a fair amount better. “
RT seemed to be very good, at least on the HD project I was editing. Again I don’t think anyone would suggest using the base model for serious editing.
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Nicholas Kleczewski
November 17, 2014 at 7:26 pmWell let’s just agree to, agree then shall we! 🙂
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Steve Connor
November 17, 2014 at 7:28 pm[Nicholas Kleczewski] “Well let’s just agree to, agree then shall we! :)”
Surely that can’t be right? Am I on the right forum? 🙂
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Mitch Ives
November 18, 2014 at 11:46 am[Steve Connor] “That’s true for the lower spec models, but your 8 Core with dual 700’s and 1TB flash is $3000 more than the iMac!”
And a Mercedes cost more than a Ford… I’m not sure we’ve made any process in this discussion.
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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