FCPX NFS tuning

[Neil Sadwelkar]

A bit off topic, but…

[David Roth Weiss] “We can use the T-bolt arrays for tier-2 backup and archive, but NOT for editing. Trust me, many have tried and failed, this a well known issue.”

So, leaving aside the sharing over GigE, you mean even if a single workstation was connected to a Thunderbolt RAID, you still cannot edit off a Thunderbolt RAID, but can off a RAID connected over SAS or eSATA, even Firewire, is that right?

I must confess I haven’t seen this issue with a MacBookPro (or iMac) connected to a single LaCie TBolt drive, or a Promise 6-bay Tbolt RAID. It works just fine. I’m using these for editing ProResHQ HD in FCP 7 as well as X. Reasonably long timelines too. Like 40+ minutes.

Also using these TBolt drives with Resolve doing long transcodes. I get sustained 24+fps reaching even 60+fps on transcodes depending on the source.

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Neil Sadwelkar
neilsadwelkar.blogspot.com
twitter: fcpguru
FCP Editor, Edit systems consultant
Mumbai India

[David Roth weiss]

[Neil Sadwelkar] “So, leaving aside the sharing over GigE, you mean even if a single workstation was connected to a Thunderbolt RAID, you still cannot edit off a Thunderbolt RAID, but can off a RAID connected over SAS or eSATA, even Firewire, is that right?”

No, it seems you misunderstood me Neil. Editing from a Thunderbolt RAID array as direct attached storage is a beautiful thing that works well (at speeds much like SAS attached storage), is nicely priced, and requires no $950 controller card, like most SAS attached storage. It’s strictly in a shared storage environment ( when attached to a server) that you will find that Thunderbolt RAID arrays won’t deliver the streaming performance required for editing.

David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com

Sales | Integration | Support

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[Neil Sadwelkar]

Bob, the OP is not trying to share one TBolt storage with multiple machines over TBolt. He has this TBolt RAID connected to a MacMini and other machines and the MacMini on a GigE network. So his MacMini is a NAS. And he isn’t getting enough throughput for the shares.

David’s contention is that while TBolt RAID storage is more than fast enough, if attached to a single Mac. Once that Mac is attached to a network the same fast Tbolt RAID cannot deliver data with consistent speed to other Macs over a GigE network. It will also not work over 10GigE according to David because of inconsistencies in the TBolt TCPIP structure.

From what I understood, SAS or ESATA RAIDs do not exhibit this inconsistency.

Is this your experience too when dealing with Final Share? Meaning, in a well configured Final Share system, does it matter if the ‘server’ Mac uses SAS RAID or TBolt RAID? Meaning, can you implement Final Share using a MacMini/iMac/MacPro as ‘server’ and TBolt RAID as the shared storage, provided the other pieces are correctly specced and configured?

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Neil Sadwelkar
neilsadwelkar.blogspot.com
twitter: fcpguru
FCP Editor, Edit systems consultant
Mumbai India

[Simon Blackledge]

Editing off a Pegasus raid over 1GigE in fcp7 and fcp-x Just fine here.

S

[David Roth weiss]

[Simon Blackledge] “Editing off a Pegasus raid over 1GigE in fcp7 and fcp-x Just fine here.

S”

How many workstations? What codec? How many layers?

David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com

Sales | Integration | Support

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[Simon Blackledge]

Just the 2. iMac + Pegasus using FCP7 or X or AE

imac 2 via GigE on fcp-X

1 or 2 layers max.

s

[Simon Blackledge]

Sorry, Prores normal and HQ.

S

[Benjamin Graf]

Hi Simon,

could you elaborate a little? How do you share the data – AFP? SMB? Is the project library also on the network or only the media files?

Thanks,
Benni.

[Simon Blackledge]

All media outside FCP-X Library.

FCP-X Library also on Promise

Mount Promise using NFS to open up the libraries required. Quit FCPX
Unmount NFS and mount via AFP

ReOpen FCP-X ( libraries still open )

edit away…

If am grading EXR or coming with DPX its always over AFP.

s

[Bob Zelin]

Hi Simon – please read below

All media outside FCP-X Library. (OK, I understand that)

FCP-X Library also on Promise (OK, I understand that)

Mount Promise using NFS to open up the libraries required.
(OK, I understand that. You mounted the Promise with NFS to get the libraries on the desktop)

Quit FCPX (OK, I understand that)

Unmount NFS and mount via AFP
***WAIT – unmount NFS ? Do you mean DISMOUNT the Promise that you mounted with NFS, and remount it with AFP ? Then the libraries will dismount. Or did you drag the libraries from the Promise onto the local desktop, so you don’t care anymore ?

ReOpen FCP-X ( libraries still open )
*** – so you remounted with AFP. When you SAVE, it is saving to the libraries that are currently on your desktop (because if you mount with AFP, you can’t write back to the Promise via AFP when running FCP-X) – please explain.

edit away…

Sorry, but I would like further explanation, if you are willing.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com