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  • Chris Harlan

    July 19, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    [Shawn Miller] “[David Powell] ” …(there aren’t many jobs on Premiere either) its takes time, but is well worth it.”

    It depends on what you do. You probably won’t find many PPro listings for broadcast work, but if you do corporate, motion graphics or or event work, you’re much more likely to encounter Premiere.

    Shawn

    My guess is that, in the promo world, there are a number of Creative Directors itching to push it in that direction. I know of two medium-sized boutiques–one specializes in game promos, the other in broadcast promos–that are planning to venture into Premiere, though both are still on FCP 7. When the new season starts, I’m planning to mix it in, along with Media Composer. I’m sort of at that point where I’m enjoying bouncing around between them because it feels like a bit of a workout. My muscle memory is even beginning to remember what system I’m on.

    So, in the promo world, I see Pr6 making a few waves. In long form, probably not so much until Adobe gets the render-out wrinkles a bit more domesticated.

  • Timothy Auld

    July 19, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    If you have the time to spend then trying to figure out why an ant goes left rather than right (or vice versa) becomes a valid question.

    Tim

  • Timothy Auld

    July 19, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    OK. I’ll fight. Whaddaya got?

    Tim

  • Shawn Miller

    July 19, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “So, in the promo world, I see Pr6 making a few waves.”

    That’s interesting, I guess I just assumed that everyone in broadcast would just go Avid or Smoke. I’m really curious to see what the post landscape will look like in a few years… personally, I’m hoping to see a lot more diversity across tools, platforms and software providers. 🙂

    Shawn

  • Chris Harlan

    July 20, 2012 at 12:20 am

    [Shawn Miller] “[Chris Harlan] “So, in the promo world, I see Pr6 making a few waves.”

    That’s interesting, I guess I just assumed that everyone in broadcast would just go Avid or Smoke. I’m really curious to see what the post landscape will look like in a few years… personally, I’m hoping to see a lot more diversity across tools, platforms and software providers. 🙂

    Shawn

    What it is, as far as I can tell, is Pr6’s relation to AE, in that it integrates well, and that there are copies just laying around. Plus, the subscription option allows for a quick build up and breakdown of extra seats in a crunch period, which the promo world is very susceptible too. Add to that, the ease of transition from FCPL to Pr6, and you get some movement.

    I should mention, though, that a few promo folks like our own John Davidson are keen to move forward with FCP X. I’m looking forward to going and seeing their X setup later this summer. I’m quite interested to see what they’ve got going.

  • Shawn Miller

    July 20, 2012 at 12:41 am

    [Chris Harlan] “I should mention, though, that a few promo folks like our own John Davidson are keen to move forward with FCP X. I’m looking forward to going and seeing their X setup later this summer. I’m quite interested to see what they’ve got going.”

    That is interesting, I would like to see if Motion starts to come more into play as well, as FCPX gains more uptake. I hope you and John will report back and let us know how X shakes out in the world of Promos.

    Shawn

  • Charlie Austin

    July 20, 2012 at 2:15 am

    [Neil Goodman] “but really i dont think anyone in LA is taking it seriously yet.”

    Um… I’m in L.A. and I take it seriously. So there’s one. 🙂

  • John Davidson

    July 20, 2012 at 2:33 am

    My ears are burning! I was gonna stay out of this fight!

    Currently three of the spots on our site’s main page slider were done on FCPX. I don’t like to call out specific projects/clients on sites I can’t control, but you’re welcome to step over and check ’em out. We haven’t had time to update with some of our newer projects, but we have 3 more movie tie ins that should be up in a week or two.

    Aside from the occasional layback or digitize, we’re totally out of 7. We’re trying to get our systems to play well with Blackmagic and AJA’s digitize layback utilities, but they’re a little finicky. Today we started building slate templates in Motion and using them as editable generators in FCPX. We’ve just started to work with Motion, especially for building wild transitions. It’s kind of fun to make them.

    We’ve been 99% FCPX since May, which has resulted in us working faster despite our lack of knowledge about FCPX. It’s a process. Today was our first string out done in FCPX that didn’t make our heads hurt, so I guess we’re getting somewhere. Oddly, it was a digital delivery so the string out was pretty much unneeded.

    I’m glad we switched and look forward to IA coming out with handles for AAF exports in August, which will make our ProTools mixer very happy. That said, we’re getting good with roles for the time being.

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • John Davidson

    July 20, 2012 at 2:35 am

    Sorry, didn’t read the whole post first. Yes, we’re getting into Motion now. Only thing I noticed is that a slate we built in motion too a long time to render. I may have done something stupid with it though. Learning is a never ending process :).

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • Charlie Austin

    July 20, 2012 at 2:36 am

    [Mark Dobson] “To denigrate people, refer to them as a small cluster of fans, who have taken the time to become proficient in this new software, to refer to it a ‘movie hero’ says more about a lack of objectivity than anything else.

    And referring to FCPX as imovie on steroids doesn’t actually move the argument on from those early days back in June 2011.”

    I heartily agree. For folks on *both* sides of the fence. 😉 It’s like the modern version of the classic Mac vs. PC “debate”. lol

    All i know is that I’m using X as much as I can because I like cutting in it. The quirks that sometimes slow me down are more than offset by the speed gained, by me, in other areas. I can move stuff back and forth from FCP 7 fairly easily, I can spit out EDL’s (EDL-X is awaiting approval on the app store) and X2Pro should solve the audio export end (handles!) with their next version in a few weeks. But, hey… if I need to go to Pr or MC, no biggie… I know ’em all. It ain’t rocket surgery. 🙂

    So to the the OP… learn ’em all. Ya never know right? Well… except iMovie. I hate iMovie. 😉

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