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Aindreas Gallagher
May 30, 2014 at 10:55 pm[Charlie Austin] “Though at least MC can link to external media now. kind of.”
not on the ground it doesn’t. there are no instances where ama is operated in scenarios where it would provide the benefits intended. it’s a fig leaf that never operates in an interplay scenario,
avid is financially designed as a closed walled world, ragnarok comes- edit – and more giving out about avid. bachelder.
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Aindreas Gallagher
May 31, 2014 at 12:21 amI’ve always enjoyed dragging a range to the primary in X. the fact that the software can’t even complete the action without presenting a six way menu always felt a sure sign of the best new cupertino thinking.
still tho – 7 does have it beat there. with 7, you do get to drop the clip to timeline without six forced query options.
https://i.imgur.com/cjkcfIa.png
the fact that they’re having to propose these questions through software every time you commit such a basic action must be incredibly satisfying on their end. relative to the drag drop object simplicity they had, this insane convoluted Esperanto must feel like quite the achievement.
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Charlie Austin
May 31, 2014 at 1:10 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “not on the ground it doesn’t. there are no instances where ama is operated in scenarios where it would provide the benefits intended.”
I got it working, at least in MC 7. It’s an enormous pain in the butt, but it does work… Sort of.
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Charlie Austin
May 31, 2014 at 1:23 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “still tho – 7 does have it beat there. with 7, you do get to drop the clip to timeline without six forced query options. “
It’s more or less the same, you just get the choices in a different place.
A simple replace operation is way faster in X IMO. select a range or in point in source, select the target clip, press a key combo. Why drag anything? The missing match frame replace is annoying though….
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Aindreas Gallagher
May 31, 2014 at 2:05 amno charlie, we both know you’re telling a weirdly desperate fib there.
you know exactly what you could drag directly the timeline, and you chose, god love you, to present the weird canvas version you know no one used.
you know exactly the problems with the timeline. It can’t allow any more drag drop entry.
– because it simply has way too much asshat preset grammar to allow that basic function. FCPX couldn’t actually allow a drop drop to the timeline even if it wanted to.
to be fair you get that right? How degraded its basic efficiency is in that key respect versus 7?
because it’s a very stupid timeline.
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Charlie Austin
May 31, 2014 at 2:56 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “It can’t allow any more drag drop entry.”
Wrong. Use the position tool and you can drop stuff wherever you want. Select tool presents you with the replace choices.
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James Culbertson
May 31, 2014 at 5:25 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “- because it simply has way too much asshat preset grammar to allow that basic function. FCPX couldn’t actually allow a drop drop to the timeline even if it wanted to.”
Aindreas, you do know that what you are talking about only applies to the specific task of doing a replace edit (using the selection tool)? If you drag to the timeline using the selection tool (over an edit point) you can do an insert without any of the replace edit verbiage. You can also drag a clip into a connected clip position. Position tool allow you to do an overwrite.
Of course, all of this is irrelevant if you use key commands to do the replace command… you know, like most professional editors would.
So as usual you are incorrect, I’m assuming due to lack of experience.
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Aindreas Gallagher
June 1, 2014 at 7:14 pm[James Culbertson] “only applies to the specific task of doing a replace edit (using the selection tool)?”
you say it as if that is a tangential use case. I referenced it to make the point that in respect of that basic operation, the X timeline has so much grammatical garbage and preset rules around the operation that it is forced to ask a six part question before it can move on. sure you can sidestep it, but it still highlights a pretty glaring problem – at least it does in my opinion. It’s an over engineered timeline.
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Charlie Austin
June 1, 2014 at 8:09 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “the X timeline has so much grammatical garbage and preset rules around the operation that it is forced to ask a six part question before it can move on”
Only if you are dragging a clip onto another clip specifically to replace it. Otherwise it’s a single keystroke. As you appear to be a mouse centric editor, remind me again the steps needed to backtime replace a clip in FCP 7 or Pr.
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James Culbertson
June 1, 2014 at 8:55 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “you say it as if that is a tangential use case…. It’s an over engineered timeline.”
Well, it is a pretty specific problem. I’m curious how you would do it differently considering all the options available for doing a replace edit in FCPX? Diminish the number of replace edit options? Perhaps allow key commands to do specific replace edit functions (which they did)? What else? How does Premiere or Media Composer do a drag and drop replace edit? And where else in FCPX do you see “grammatical garbage” and forced multi-step questions?
Personally, I’ve always felt that Media Composer was an over-engineered timeline. Certainly, Premiere is no less “engineered” from my perspective. So I guess it all depends upon how you like to work.
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