FCPX is Ready for prime time

[Shane Ross]

I have used FCP 6 and 7 in environments where we had multiple users cutting one show, the same episode. Shared media and all that, but the difference is that we all worked from separate project files, but when we needed to combine all the sections, we’d be able to open these separate projects and pull the separate pieces together. Not as elegant as Avid, but it worked very well. Bunim Murray productions used FCP like this for years, on several reality shows, including Project Runway. I used this on a series for Discovery called Surgery Saved My Life, History series called Strange History, ID series called Call 911, another ID series True Crime With Aphrodite Jones, WE show Bad Girls Club. All shows with multiple editors cutting one episode.

And no software allows two editors to cut the same sequence at the same time. Avid allows us to all open the same bin, but the only person who can male changes to the cut in that bin (savable cut) is the first person to open it.

Shane
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[Oliver Peters]

[Shane Ross] “And no software allows two editors to cut the same sequence at the same time. “

I seem to recall that EditShare’s implementation of Lightworks does allow that. It’s been a couple of years though, since I checked it out at NAB.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Shane Ross]

Sounds dangerous, Oliver. Two editors shouldn’t be able to make changes to the same sequence at the same time.

Shane
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[Oliver Peters]

[Shane Ross] “Two editors shouldn’t be able to make changes to the same sequence at the same time.”

I would tend to agree. As I recall, you had to “refresh” the sequence in order for one editor’s changes to update on the other’s screen.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Douglas K. dempsey]

Ha ha, sounds like Google Docs!

Doug D

[Douglas K. dempsey]

Thanks Shane, that’s the kind of reference that gives me some context. My wife did some History Channel shows out of Stamford & NYC years ago, also Avid shows.

You’re probably right, you end up getting someone in trouble if you get too specific, everything is an NDA now! 🙂

Doug D

[Charlie Austin]

[Shane Ross] “I have used FCP 6 and 7 in environments where we had multiple users cutting one show, the same episode. Shared media and all that, but the difference is that we all worked from separate project files, but when we needed to combine all the sections, we’d be able to open these separate projects and pull the separate pieces together.”

Yeah, we do the same, in 7 and Pr. I think a big complaint about X is that it’s not possible to do that. But… you can do it. It is a little convoluted at the moment, and you unfortunately do have to jump through some hoops.

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[Douglas K. dempsey]

Charlie:

I ask because when I versioned using duplicate projects, my folders grew geometrically. Perhaps I have a faulty setting in Preferences.

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In Legacy, I just Duplicated a Sequence, and of course it was easy to have multiple sequences opened as tabs in the Timeline, and cut & paste between them.

Unsure if there is a logical way to do a similar process in X.

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I did learn that you could create CC’s and version them, “Reference New Parent Clip” and begin working on the new one.

In this workflow, I will have a Project called something like “PeaceJam Conference Workbench” and when I decide to save a version, I make the cut a compound clip, then Reference New Parent which creates a copy, number that v2. I delete v1 CC from the Timeline or “workbench” and drop in v2, begin my revisions.

Thus I have dated, numbered CCs in the Event Library, but only the current version will be sitting on the Project timeline, or “workbench” in mid-edit.

I have no idea if this process is vulnerable to disaster, as I haven’t had one yet! 🙂

Doug D

[Oliver Peters]

[Douglas K. Dempsey] “I ask because when I versioned using duplicate projects, my folders grew geometrically. Perhaps I have a faulty setting in Preferences.”

Don’t include the render files. Also if your sequences include compound clips, then you are duplicating all of those extra clips AGAIN under-the-hood.

In my experience, compounds should be completely avoided at all costs, except for effects nests and the like. These have ramifications later, like when you try to dupe+used clips to create a “consolidated” event.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Timothy Auld]

Happy to hear anyone’s story of their tools and how they work in their situation. But “FCPX, Learn it”?
Please.

Tim