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  • Timothy Auld

    June 12, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    And just for emphasis I will ask one more time: Why would anyone in their right mind start a complex project in FCPX?

    Tim

  • Shane Ross

    June 12, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “Why would anyone in their right mind start a complex project in FCPX?

    Because metadata is magic, and solves all issues.

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  • David Lawrence

    June 12, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    [Shane Ross] “How does this work for Avid? Sony Vegas? Edius? So far all you’ve shown is how to use this for FCX and Premiere Pro. That’s not “any” NLE. How would you translate full project organization and media to Avid Media Composer? Edius? Lightwave?”

    Fair questions, Shane.

    Xto7 gives me this in FCP7:

    I was then able to export XML from this FCP7 project and successfully import it into Premiere.

    I presume that any NLE that can import bins, clips, subclips and Log Note metadata from standard FCP7 XML will work. I don’t have all the NLEs you mentioned but can test with Avid sometime later today.

    Maybe *any* is too strong a word. It should work with any NLE that properly reads FCP7 XML. That in itself is still a big deal. I’d love it if folks with other systems could give this workflow a try and report back.

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  • Timothy Auld

    June 12, 2014 at 10:56 pm

    I have all the useless (and, yes occasionally useful) metadata I need in Premiere CC. If only they had any kind of comprehensive documentation. Sadly Adobe’s documentation is useless crap. Just like the FCPX documentation.

    Tim

  • David Lawrence

    June 12, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “Why not just start in Premiere, Avid, FCP7, or whatever else? Why in the hell would anyone start any project in FCPX?”

    Tim,

    I have zero interest in cutting a complex project in FCPX. I’m thinking about this purely for logging and organizing.

    Skimming, range selecting, keywording, and annotating clips is a fantastic logging workflow in FCPX. Better than anything else I’ve tried. And it fits into my team’s research and synthesis process extremely well.

    With this new version of Xto7, all prep work and organization in FCPX moves seamlessly into a cutting environment I’m comfortable with. I get the best of both worlds.

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  • Timothy Auld

    June 12, 2014 at 11:15 pm

    What precisely do you get in FCPX that you would not get starting in any other NLE? I can do the equivalent of skimming, range selecting, and annotating in any other NLE workflow. And if I did it in Avid I would actually have markers that are useful. I don’t see why I would choose FCPX as my organizational tool for any job.

    Tim

  • David Lawrence

    June 12, 2014 at 11:41 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “What precisely do you get in FCPX that you would not get starting in any other NLE? I can do the equivalent of skimming, range selecting, and annotating in any other NLE workflow. And if I did it in Avid I would actually have markers that are useful. I don’t see why I would choose FCPX as my organizational tool for any job.”

    I get where you’re coming from. Believe me, no one’s more surprised by this than me. You should have see the look on some friend’s faces when I told them I was making FCPX a key part of my workflow, lol. 😉

    It’s completely true that you can get the equivalent of skimming, range selecting, and annotating in any other NLE workflow.

    But what you don’t get is the speed, fluidity, and ease of FCPX.

    Jeremy has written many posts on how keyword collections are essentially bins but with greater flexibility. He’s right. I’ve always appreciated FCPXs organizing tools. My problem has always been with the timeline. Now, I can ignore the timeline and just use the part of FCPX I like.

    This Xto7 workflow allows me to translate keyword collections directly into bins with annotated subclips. For me and my needs, annotated subclips presorted into keyword-named bins is way more useful then having markers.

    That’s just me, your needs may be different. But if you have FCPX, give this workflow a try. You too may be pleasantly surprised.

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  • Timothy Auld

    June 12, 2014 at 11:45 pm

    But are we only talking x to 7? What else?

    Tim

  • Timothy Auld

    June 12, 2014 at 11:50 pm

    I guess more specifically I’m asking how (and if) keyword collections fit into Premiere, Vegas, Edius, et al? Are we just talking translation to FCP&?

    Tim

  • Oliver Peters

    June 12, 2014 at 11:51 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “Really? Overnight?”

    Yep. Done all the time.

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