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  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 21, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    10.0.8 has not been my favorite release.

    I hope this gets fixed before fall.

  • Nikolas Bäurle

    June 21, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    Whenever I have to use FX Factory Stuff or Magic Bullet on FCP 7 I cringe, it is so much faster in X, even building a simple title in Legacy has become very annoying to me.

    The most important thing to me is the rendering speed and the fact that I can edit without having to render, or if I’m using a slow system or older drive have to render less. Now, in Legacy you can render references, which you can’t in X, and I’ve had arguments about this, and realized that sometimes the X haters I know forget that a reference is only fast if you don’t have to render anything.

    Currently I’m editing a lot of industry stuff on Legacy, and X I use at Promiflash, Avid at the DW. Whenever I’m on Legacy and we have tight schedules and the client want something from Magic Bullet or a Vignette first I need to warn them that we need more time to render if we add this or that. And certain clients need to see FX and titles rendered which takes time if after every change you render again. Before X came out this was never a problem since that’s what was available, but now on X I feel so much freer. You want to preview the effect, click on the effect icon and hit play or scrub through it. Showing FX to clients and rendering them is so much faster.

    There’s still a lot of negativity about the magnetic timeline. I do sound recording on Avid for DW-TV, and I still do a lot of mixing and recording in Legacy. Using roles is much faster than tracks, and for the time I spend in X moving clips around to where I want them to be, I spend more time in Legacy during editing making sure not to overrite clips by accident. And by the way, having fixed tracks doesn’t mean that everything is nicely organized, I often have to deal with very sloppy fixed track timelines when recording or mixing.

    “Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python

  • Michael Garber

    June 21, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    I followed a similar path as you, Mark. Tried it. Failed miserably because the program had so many issues when it launched. Insert the line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, “Run away! Run away!”

    But then… it got better. I dove in and held my breath, seeing how long I could go without using 7 or any helper apps. I think the difference between now and 2 years ago is that I know how to use the program. Seems silly to say that is the difference, but it was soooo different.

    Now, when I approach an edit in FCP X, I think how I’d organize and cut in a way that works best in the app. I don’t spend nearly as much time trying to figure out “how would this work in FCP X vs other NLEs?” Or “but, Mom, I don’t WANNA log all that footage first!” 😉

    One of my goals, when I decided to learn the app, was that I wanted to know all the pitfalls. I wanted to break it more than I wanted to be successful with it. That way, when I was working with a client, I wouldn’t have to worry as much not knowing what might bring our edit session to a screeching halt. That’s pretty much how I learned 7 and one of the things that kept me working as an FCP 7 editor. Same can be said of successful Premiere or Avid editors.

    All said, I still have crashes. Still request new features. Still want to see the program improve. Still wary about cutting certain types of projects on it. I think it’s wise to be wary of something when it’s your bread and butter. Gotta always do the research, first.

    But yes, it’s come quite a long way in 2 years. Happy to say that I’m using it and now liking it very much.

    Michael Garber
    5th Wall – a post production company
    Blog: GARBERSHOP
    My Moviola Webinar on Cutting News in FCP X

  • Chris Harlan

    June 21, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “Apple but to call it not pro, is itself, a sign that person is truly amateur”

    While I appreciate symmetry in construction, its probably more likely a sign that they haven’t been around it recently and/or feel burned by the change. Not everybody hugs the net like we do.

  • Gary Huff

    June 21, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    Then the discussion is clearly far from being concluded then, correct?

  • Craig Seeman

    June 21, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “feel burned by the change”

    Depending how long one has been in the business, nearly all NLEs might qualify. They all have given us that burning sensation.

    [Chris Harlan] “Not everybody hugs the net like we do.”

    One should if you either make purchasing decisions (facility decision maker) or otherwise need to keep up and the business as it impacts one’s job (freelancer). Those people most comfy with their jobs or the status quo of their facilities are the most likely to get burned again.

  • Chris Harlan

    June 21, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    Oh, yeah. sure, sure.
    But none of that is a sign
    that anyone is an amateur.

  • Paul Neumann

    June 22, 2013 at 1:00 am

    Weirdest thing ever to happen to me with X was editing a 1080/29.97 project and upon opening it the next day it was 720/25. Swear. No way I did it myself as I shot all the footage myself just that morning and I am definitely a “set project based on first clip” kind of guy. None of the footage was scaled. That’s what tipped me off. Why is this all zoomed in? Weird indeed. Never happened again. This was shortly after its release but I was using a Spring 2011 Macbook Pro 15″ so I certainly had the most modern hardware for the time.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 22, 2013 at 1:26 am

    [Paul Neumann] “Weirdest thing ever to happen to me with X was editing a 1080/29.97 project and upon opening it the next day it was 720/25. Swear.”

    Yeah, that was a weird bug for a while. I remember it having to do with “open in timeline” or something.

  • Michael Garber

    June 22, 2013 at 1:28 am

    I’m hearing Barbra Streisand singing “Memories” in my head right now. Who’s going to cut that clip reel?

    Michael Garber
    5th Wall – a post production company
    Blog: GARBERSHOP
    My Moviola Webinar on Cutting News in FCP X

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