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FCPX and color correction tools
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[Oliver Peters] “Because it will make the product better without requiring third party solutions. But I suppose most of the faithful X users don’t care about that. That’s coming through loud and clear on this thread!”
The other perspective, of course is that as primarily Video Editors and not Colorists – we appreciate the fact that X has all the tools necessary to put out a superfast base-graded CUT yet is not slowed down and made “heavier” but someone deciding that our software ALWAYS NEEDS to sit on top of an entire suite of bespoke colorists tools – regardless of whether a specific editor will EVER need to use them.
It’s not like we can’t add them as needed via Chromatic, Finale, or work through Resolve – but if we don’t need that, we don’t have to unnecessarily drag that stuff around all the time.
Some of us appreciate this much agility in such a light code footprint.
Just a thought?
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[Oliver Peters] “Because it will make the product better without requiring third party solutions.”
Better for who? Editors or just your and your workflow? Oliver, why does every tool have to do everything? Why not be modular? Add more power when needed.
Why bloat the software?This is simply your opinion on what is “better” for everyone which is inherently biased. Has nothing to do with liking X or not.
Scott Witthaus
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[Bill Davis] “The other perspective, of course is that as primarily Video Editors and not Colorists – we appreciate the fact that X has all the tools necessary to put out a superfast base-graded CUT yet is not slowed down and made “heavier” but someone deciding that our software ALWAYS NEEDS to sit on top of an entire suite of bespoke colorists tools – regardless of whether a specific editor will EVER need to use them.
It’s not like we can’t add them as needed via Chromatic, Finale, or work through Resolve – but if we don’t need that, we don’t have to unnecessarily drag that stuff around all the time.
Some of us appreciate this much agility in such a light code footprint. “
Perfectly stated Bill. Well played.
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So Avid’s NOT the only NLE where it’s users don’t want any change?
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[Scott Witthaus] “Perfectly stated Bill. Well played.”
A big +1 from me, too. I’d even venture to say that that is also Apple’s exact logic and reasoning behind how they’ve done things so far, MAY continue to and why. Whether I like or agree with it or not, or would do this or that differently, I completely understand where they’re coming from and commend the overall approach. NOT wanting to win the Feature List Length Contest at the cost of bloat, instability, performance and increasingly convoluted handling, for the mere sake of appeasing the specialty needs of a minute portion of their users, whilst making matters that much worse for everyone else. Unless they can of course have both. 😉
I can choose to add what it is I need OR, even better, exclude what don’t need. Basically the opposite of what others apparently have chosen to do. So, for me, to say that with X you have LESS choice, options or ability is rather backwards in the grand scheme. If you don’t like the approach, that’s a whole different matter and why there are alternatives.
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[Scott Witthaus] “This is simply your opinion on what is “better” for everyone which is inherently biased.”
EVERYTHING on this forum is someone’s opinion.
[Scott Witthaus] “Why bloat the software?”
The fact that Apple is adding new color features to the upcoming version of Photos would seem to indicate that they don’t agree with you.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Bill Davis] “It’s not like we can’t add them as needed via Chromatic, Finale, or work through Resolve – but if we don’t need that, we don’t have to unnecessarily drag that stuff around all the time.”
Simply not practical in a collaborative environment with many editors constantly interchanging projects in a final-quality fashion.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Steve Connor] “So Avid’s NOT the only NLE where it’s users don’t want any change?”
Actually, if you’ve ever been to an Avid user event, you’ll find quite a lot of interest in change and improvement. Usually having to do with solving real-world problems..
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Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “[Steve Connor] “So Avid’s NOT the only NLE where it’s users don’t want any change?”
Actually, if you’ve ever been to an Avid user event, you’ll find quite a lot of interest in change and improvement. Usually having to do with solving real-world problems..
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When I look at an image that I want to grade, more times than not there is one color that is dominating.
Maybe it’s Red, Green, Yellow. The first thing I do is grab that mid puck and slide it over to that color and subtract.That first simple move often brings the look right into line.
After using that board for a while it hit me. They have taken the science of color and converted it into a simple math equation. You simply don’t need to know much about the science of colors. (I think people should still study it, but……)
Too much blue? Subtract blue.
I notice when I look at my board, more times than not my pucks are in the minus region. Easier to take away than to know what to add.
I feel my grading is more intuitive and efficient this way. I’m not thinking of it in terms of the number of “clicks”,
I’m thinking in terms of “process”. I get to the look that I want quickly. Try it.I have color finale I just don’t find myself using it anymore. I end up getting exactly what I want without it.
I don’t believe Apple changed from wheels to the board just to be different. I think somebody over there figured this out. I’m glad they did.
I’m not opposed to changing things in X, (You have to be about change to like X in the first place) I’m just more impressed with what “they” have come up with rather than the ideas I see on here from some.
I didn’t see the skimmer, or connected clips or even the color board coming. I didn’t think of those things first. They saw that before me. I guess I want more of “Their” ideas : )
Some folks on here want less. That’s the debate in a nutshell.
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