FCP-X timeline

[Jay Soriano]

Posted this good read by Gary Adcock below. I’ll post it here again:

https://www.macworld.com/article/159202/2011/04/final_cut_pro_x_blog.html

[Scott Sheriff]

[Craig Shields] “iMovie Pro? Wow. We didn’t watch the same demo.”

Demo? How about just looking at the touted features.
I think Phil Hawes hit the mark with this post:
“From what I read of the reports of the demo of the new Final Cut X, the new features demonstrated are targeted towards the amateur video maker with a camcorder or DSLR. Features like stabilization, rolling shutter correction, noise cancellation, and audio sync, all supposedly happening on import, are targeting users who have basic production equipment problems. These are all features to compensate for amateur errors. A lot of these tools are problematic and not what a professional is asking for.

Nor does the professional want a new “event list” , filmstrip viewers, a new iMovie like trim editor, or pop up color correction.

The only feature here that any professional would want is 64 bit and multi-threading and not so they could edit H.264 natively in an iMovie like environment or have a no transcoding workflow. A 64 bit multi-threaded Final Cut 7 would have satisfied most people and taken away a lot of headaches.

If the demo had been targeted towards professionals the following features may have been shown: better Media Management tools, improvement for filters (10 bit), a better Compressor interface, better integration with Color, and perhaps Motion working in 10 bit with more finesse.”

So here are some of these dubious ‘features’.

– Non destructive color balance on ingest
– Stabilization on ingest
– Audio cleanup on ingest
– Smart collections – like smart folders
– Clip connections, primary and secondary media locking together
– Single keystroke nesting
– Compound clips – collapse clips into a single clip
– Inline precision editor – simplifies trimming of clips
– Automatic control of number of tracks – add and go when needed
– One click to match color between clips
– Color & Soundtrack now in FCPX
– iMovie like filmstrip view
– Color & Soundtrack now in FCPX

The real telltale sign is all the things people have actually been posting about needing fixed since 6.0 that seemed to be swept under the rug, in favor of pushing features aimed at ‘auto iris’ shooters.

I noticed a lot of fan boys have been ‘thumbing down’ and flaming anyone not under the Reality Distortion Field. Grow up.
Many of us out here are so underwhelmed, we’re not ‘whelmed’ at all by this announcement. We are certainly not stopping you from downloading this at 12:01 on day one if that makes you happy.

Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed…

[Craig Shields]

I’m not a fan boy. I just watched the demo and decided for myself that these are pro features. I didn’t need to read someones column to make up my mind. If you shoot anything with CMOS you will encounter some rolling shutter. If you shoot with a DSLR, you probably have an HN4 recorder that you will sync with your scratch track. That’s why folks use Plural Eyes. I wouldn’t be so quick to call someone a Fan Boy because they can see the value in something you can not.

[Nigel Thompson]

New things and ways always seem illogical but wait for more information and hands on experience then make a judgement
Everyone needs to chill. and if then u dont like it just buy something else i really dont see the need for all the rant and rave

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[Dan Hayes]

If there’s one thing that Apple doesn’t lack it’s audacity. I think they do believe they know better than the people who deal with this for a living.

[Matthew Sonnenfeld]

I’m actually very confused with the linked audio and video in the timeline. Maybe someone could help me better understand this. I hope I don’t sound silly asking this but….

How would I be able to just use the audio of one clip under the video of another or intercut audio if they are always linked? I.E., swap out a word or two that are not clear in a clip for a clearer version from another. Also, will rolling audio and video independently work the same way? The roll/slip tools are extremely important for me and I just am having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around how these two tasks are accomplished.

Thanks!

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[Mark Palmos]

[Eric Jurgenson] ” I don’t knoew if I could work without the inherent organization of dedicated tracks.”

I totally agree Eric, and I think it is truly impossible to NOT have a way to dedicate tracks… I cannot imagine there would be no way.

At present, FCP is confused and confusing WRT the paradigm of track selection. You click on the leftmost V1 V2 to assign where to INSERT/OVERLAY clips when editing in, but click on those other little icons to select tracks which determines which tracks are active if you delete media, or if you press X to get IO of the current track.

IMO if you are editing, the track tabs should determine both where INSERT/OVERLAY clips are placed AND which track determines what is marked by X key or which tracks are deleted. It makes sense to have the same tabs for both because if you are ADDING and REMOVING stuff from the timeline (aka editing 😉 you would purposefully be doing that to specific tracks so you can determine where you want clips to go WITHOUT having to drag and drop clips.

FCPX would HAVE to have a way of assigning where clips are insert/overlayed because mousing about is obviously not going to be a requirement, so if you are to press F9 or F10, where does the stuff go?

I’m sure there will be track assigning ability, there HAS to be.

Mark.

[Thomas Frank]

Final Cut Pro for 299,- is dumping down from the Pro’s?
This is a Joke right?
Boy I tell you I think it is more then now!

Because the upgrade Studio price with:
Final Cut Pro 7
Motion 4
Soundtrack Pro 3
Color 1.5
Compressor 3.5
DVD Studio Pro 4
is 299,- and you can get Full Version at B&H for 749,95 divide that by (lets be fair) five is 149,99.

Also we know so far this is not it and there are more Apps coming. I say we wait how much the others will cost.
From the Demo I just seen, no this is for the Pros yeah anybody can buy it know and run it of there iMac and won’t have idea how to really use all the tools. But if it is true what Apple promises this thing (Final Cut Pro lets skip 8 and 9) is going to kick some A$$ on a Mac Pro! Which is good marking point for the Pro hardware.

But lets get back to the Timeline. This can really speed up editing… editing on the fly 🙂
For time well me as the driver of Final Cut or any other NLR software is in control of the time. Soooo nope this is going to work out. 🙂

[Dan Hayes]

[Mark Palmos] “FCPX would HAVE to have a way of assigning where clips are insert/overlayed because mousing about is obviously not going to be a requirement, so if you are to press F9 or F10, where does the stuff go?

I’m sure there will be track assigning ability, there HAS to be.”

From what I’ve seen, I think it’s all done with magnets.

[Mark Palmos]

[Dan Hayes] “From what I’ve seen, I think it’s all done with magnets.”

Hey there Dan!
I hope all is good with you?!

That MAY be ok if you were dragging your clips to the timeline and could place them were you want, but there absolutely must be a way to

mark IO on the timeline

mark I on the source clip

target a specific track on the timeline

press a keyboard command to have that source clip go to that spot on the timeline.

absolutely basic necessities for most editors… I didnt see the show, so how do magnets do this basic operation without a mouse being used?

Mark.