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  • Steve Connor

    December 14, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    [dan crouch] “That sounds like it could work. I imagine it’ll take a while to get use to tho.”

    I does, but when you do…….:)

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Charlie Austin

    December 14, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    [dan crouch] “That sounds like it could work. I imagine it’ll take a while to get use to tho.
    Thanks v much for all the help.

    Cool. It’s way easier than making selects the old way. It’ll take you about 2 seconds to get used to. 🙂 The part that takes the most time is filling in the keywords you’d like to use. Then it’s just I/O and a keystroke or 2 depending on how many tags you want to associate with the clip. Combine keywords with favoriting and markers and you’ll be in “find anything you need with a keystroke” heaven.

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  • Carsten Orlt

    December 14, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    The getting used to part is that you will constantly adjust what keywords to use how to use them and how to combine that with fav and markers.

    There is no one way to approach this so you have to find the system that works for.

    And do not be afraid to try. The beauty is that you can at any stage change keywords selections, rename the keyword etc. So if in the beginning you make some changes because you adjust your system it is done very easily.

    The biggest change in approach is really that you spent more time organizing and tagging your footage before you start putting it together in projects. I for instance have one empty ‘test project’ which I use to cut a few things in while organizing to see if a certain combination might work, or I need to see if I can CC the clip to make it usable, like a scratch pad, constantly deleting after the test and than adjusting my organization in the event depending on the outcome.

    There is not one way to skin this cat, but you definitely using a different knife and technique 🙂

    Happy editing

  • Michael Hadley

    December 14, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    Don’t forget the easiest key–F. Mark in and outs and just hit F. That marks the selection as a favorite. Then just do a seach on all your favorites and voila, instant selects bin. And if you are also adding keywords, you can refine your search to Favorites/Close Up or whatever.

  • Carsten Orlt

    December 15, 2012 at 2:46 am

    I only work 2-4 at a time so I never noticed them disappearing again.

    Wouldn’t know how to maintain a larger number. I guess X kicks out the oldest to free up memory?

    Sorry not solution here Oliver.

    Happy editing.

  • Oliver Peters

    December 15, 2012 at 3:33 am

    [Carsten Orlt] ” I guess X kicks out the oldest to free up memory?”

    Yes, it does feel like a RAM issue.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Erik Lindahl

    December 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    The handling of projects and sequences clearly is one of FCPX’s “Achilles Heels”. It clearly wasn’t design with TVC versioning in mind. Just the simple fact at how hard it is to visualize say 30 edits is hard, if not impossible.

    This is really something they need to look into on top of the fact being able to have multiple sequences open at once. Very limited now. But that’s, I guess, part of 10.0 being 1.0 (or well 1.7 now I guess).

    It almost seems more efficient using one single timeline and FCPX index-feature for some work. Much like its done in Protools. Very confusing way of working IMO but it might get the jobb done.

  • Bill Davis

    December 15, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    [Erik Lindahl] “The handling of projects and sequences clearly is one of FCPX’s “Achilles Heels”.”

    Not quite sure how you can say this.

    After all, they built in a nice relational database that manages all your raw assets making agile assembly of multiple projects fast and easy. They built in the Project Library – where you can have a visual display of all your “edits.” They gave you namable folders within that Project Library so that you can do all the sub-organization you like.

    AND they transformed the original one dimensional Timeline into a storyline with the ability to not only create groupings of visual elements that you can drop in and move out at will – they even built direct clip auditioning directly into the Storyline as another option.

    How you can argue that the “handling of projects and sequences” is potentially fata in itl? (Kinda what the whole Achillies thing was, no? I honestly think that’s totally out of proportion as an opinion.

    Some will find the tools amazingly flexible. Others won’t have specific solution in X for specific workflows that they’ve come to prefer. And others will simply not understand how the software works well enough to solve specific problems according to how the software is designed until they understand it better.

    I think the way they designed it’s Project and Versioning tools is quite simply, brilliant.

    Once again, I think the more people can break out of their desperate need to view the X interface in terms of how their former working patterns have conditioned them to expect operations to work – the better it will work for them.

    Yes, it takes learning. But increasing numbers of us have also learned that it REWARDS that effort greatly.

    FWIW.

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  • Chris Harlan

    December 15, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Once again, I think the more people can break out of their desperate need to view the X interface in terms of how their former working patterns have conditioned them to expect operations to work – the better it will work for them.”

    Bill, I was in agreement with you until you say crud like this.

  • Charlie Austin

    December 15, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “[Bill Davis] “Once again, I think the more people can break out of their desperate need to view the X interface in terms of how their former working patterns have conditioned them to expect operations to work – the better it will work for them.”

    Bill, I was in agreement with you until you say crud like this.”

    Me too. You make a lot of great points Bill, can we dispense with the “you fools just don’t understand it” rhetoric? I think it would help your case. 😉

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