Fcp x no sub edits?

[Oliver Peters]

[Steve Connor] “As I said make a duplicate of your project then make a compound of it, then you get access to it in the Project viewer AND the event”

True. But Apple could actually fix the problem by:
a) adding a list view option to the Project Library window, or
b) Moving the Project Library window into the Event Browser space.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Steve Connor]

I’ve sent a feedback request for b) including being able to set io points. It would be a neater solution

Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

[Oliver Peters]

[Steve Connor] “I’ve sent a feedback request for b) including being able to set io points”

It would be nice to have the insert/overwrite “with sequence contents” function back to eliminate the need to copy & paste clips or to break apart compounds.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Tony Corapi]

I feel it would be helpful if you could put the project library in list view like in the event library. Many times I cannot even read the names of projects if longer titles are necessary and go to filmstrip view when you want to playback or skim through. As Oliver said, waiting for things to load can get problematic. Oh and batch export would be great too.

[Michael Hadley]

It took me a while to figure out how to make versions or strings to refer back to etc. Working with X, I have found that it just super easy to duplicate and rename the project and then continue cutting on the new version.

Once you get the hang of it, it couldn’t be simpler. Also, it took me a while to figure out that you can PLAY projects from the library. So you can in fact hope back and forth and look for that sweet ending soundbite in Cut 3 that you know want to bring back to Cut 7.

The compound clip route is also completely valid approach if you like that. And also super easy (a couple of keystrokes). I just prefer the other route.

My larger point would be this: when you find yourself unable to do something in X, it’s most often because there’s just a different way of doing it. And that new way is 90% of the time better and faster. But there will be that initial period of “WTF?!?!?!?!”. But over time, as you work with it, you will come to understand the intelligence behind the software. And if you are like me, you will never look back to FCP7 (which I used for 10 years).

It’s not perfect but it’s pretty darn tasty.

[Michael Sanders]

Check out Pro versioner from Digital Rebellion – it can help with saving alternative cuts.

Michael Sanders
London Based DP/Editor

[Bret Williams]

I agree on all points. It’s just different. FCP 7 really sucked when you needed to grab something from another project and you had to first, find the project, then open it.

[Oliver Peters]

[Bret Williams] “FCP 7 really sucked when you needed to grab something from another project and you had to first, find the project, then open it”

You’re confusing FCP 7 Projects (complete files for an entire production) with FCP X Projects (just sequences). If you had to do the equivalent in X, it would require closing and manually moving “disabled” projects back into the Folder at the Finder level, or using Event Manger X. Both of which require more work than opening an existing project in FCP 7 or using Media Composer’s “open bin” function.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Jari Innanen]

“it is looking more and more like a complicated non pro application to me.
Clever ways of keeping a tidy timeline, but with no thought of the intuitive nature of editing, if you know what I mean”

Have you used the Audition feature in FCPX? No other NLE that I know of has that. I’m doing my second feature film on FCPX and very much disagree what you’re saying about the “intuitive nature of editing”. I came from film editing, went to Avid 1991 and to FCP 2001. In between and after have used Media 100, Lightworks, Heavyworks and Premiere Pro. The FCP X is as close to “intuitive nature of editing” as I know. And much more.

[Dan Crouch]

Thanks for the post Jari, that is very encouraging to hear.
I have a job pencilled on Fcp x so am very keen for it to work for me.

Can I then ask how you go about selecting the best takes for a scene?
would you line them up in a new project, and add a marker for comments etc, or would you use the audition feature you have described.

When I select best takes in Avid I simply put a marker on my favourite take, cut it into my scene always knowing I have a sequence with all the takes should the director want to review.

Cheers,
Dan.