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FCP X hits 3.5 Million users?
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[Neil Goodman] “It a great tool and I suggest everyone learns it to have in the back pocket – but to make a viable career off it in the major markets, is still but a pipe dream.”
In the Seattle area, I’ve actually had more work requesting FCP 10 over the last 3-4 years. It is corporate work primarily. I put off learning FCP 10 at first, but the high pay was a great motivator. Now I prefer using FCP whenever possible. I definitely agree with Mark Toia that it is the fastest editor available at this time.
No AVID here, its all Premiere and FCP 10. Definitely a lot of interest in Davinci Resolve, but not sure it is quite trusted for prime time work yet.
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[James Culbertson] “[Neil Goodman] “It a great tool and I suggest everyone learns it to have in the back pocket – but to make a viable career off it in the major markets, is still but a pipe dream.”
In the Seattle area, I’ve actually had more work requesting FCP 10 over the last 3-4 years. It is corporate work primarily. I put off learning FCP 10 at first, but the high pay was a great motivator. Now I prefer using FCP whenever possible. I definitely agree with Mark Toia that it is the fastest editor available at this time.
No AVID here, its all Premiere and FCP 10. Definitely a lot of interest in Davinci Resolve, but not sure it is quite trusted for prime time work yet.”
I thought Microsoft Studios and Amazon Studios were partly AVID and partly Premiere Pro these days… did they switch AVID for FCPX?
Shawn
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[Shawn Miller] “I thought Microsoft Studios and Amazon Studios were partly AVID and partly Premiere Pro these days… did they switch AVID for FCPX?”
Not completely sure about internally at Amazon Studios, but among outside contractors I have never heard mention of Media Composer. I don’t think they tell outside contractors what to use for the most part so some use Premiere and some use FCP 10. Microsoft Studios has been all Premiere for a couple of years. However, there are a number of groups at Microsoft that work outside of the studios, and make their own choices. I spent over 2 years as an outside contractor at one large group at Microsoft which used FCP 10 exclusively. There are other FAANG satellites in Seattle that also use a mixture of FCP 10 and Premiere (and no AVID). Seattle Public Schools media operations center is FCP 10 exclusively. It’s popping up more and more these days.
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[Shawn Miller] “Amazon Studios were partly AVID and partly Premiere Pro these days”
Amazon defaults to the production company making their shows. Then they default to whatever agency is cutting their marketing. Not much going on in house at Amazon worth talking about.
Not sure about Microsoft.
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[James Culbertson] “[Shawn Miller] “I thought Microsoft Studios and Amazon Studios were partly AVID and partly Premiere Pro these days… did they switch AVID for FCPX?”
Not completely sure about internally at Amazon Studios, but among outside contractors I have never heard mention of Media Composer. I don’t think they tell outside contractors what to use for the most part so some use Premiere and some use FCP 10. Microsoft Studios has been all Premiere for a couple of years.”
Interesting – it’s been a while, but the last time I was there, MS Studios was still about half Media Composer and half Premiere Pro (in house)… but that wasn’t long after they switched from FCP7. I haven’t kept up on what other MS groups have been doing in terms of post.
Every other internal corporate production/post production group and agency that I know of are mostly Adobe or Adobe and AVID (Accenture, Starbucks, Boeing, Macy’s, etc) – so I haven’t really seen an uptake of FCPX or Resolve… it could just be the circles that I run in though.
Shawn
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[Neil Goodman] “[Shawn Miller] “Amazon Studios were partly AVID and partly Premiere Pro these days”
Amazon defaults to the production company making their shows. Then they default to whatever agency is cutting their marketing. Not much going on in house at Amazon worth talking about.”
I’m only talking about Amazon’s in house production. ☺
[Neil Goodman] “Not sure about Microsoft.”
I haven’t been there in a while, so I can’t be sure either… but I thought they were still AVID and Premiere Pro… I could be wrong though.
Shawn
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[Shawn Miller] “so I haven’t really seen an uptake of FCPX or Resolve… it could just be the circles that I run in though.”
Yes, I would say that it being known that I am fluent in FCP 10 (and actually like using it) has opened doors to work that others who are centered only on Premiere can’t access.
Originally, when I learned the earlier Premiere/Radius/Targa systems in the 90s (in addition to tape to tape, and AVID) I got work on high budget multimedia projects that a lot of other editors ignored. Same when FCP Legacy first came out, a lot of AVID editors thought it was a joke. Same for mid/late 90s After Effects work when Flame operators thought it was a toy. At one point in the late 90s, part of my income was as a multimedia palette creation specialist, and video compression specialist. I’m learning Resolve now. Don’t get stuck in the past… I’ll keep doing this until I retire.
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Bob, as you said between amateurs using FCPX and the Damn iPhone being a shooting tool for everyone with a film idea, the bottom and midlevels of film/video work have vanished. That includes public agencies such as fire and police, govt. institutions, small companies who have a kid shoot with the phone or DLSR, even some of our previous bread and butter, political commercials, are being done for free by a supporter with a phone and placed on Facebook. That leaves the high end corporate where the completion is fierce and you have to know someone on the inside or doing docs and hoping for a pick up.
The new tech is great for pros but it is also great for everyone else. Maybe I long for the days of shooting on an ARRI 2C and editing on a Steenbeck or Kem.
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[James Culbertson] “[Shawn Miller] “so I haven’t really seen an uptake of FCPX or Resolve… it could just be the circles that I run in though.”
Yes, I would say that it being known that I am fluent in FCP 10 (and actually like using it) has opened doors to work that others who are centered only on Premiere can’t access. “
That may account for some of the different things we’re seeing in the same town and industry. I’m a full time employee in a company, so my interactions with other production and post people are in the context of hiring, handing files/projects off to them, or getting files/projects from them. As a freelancer, I imagine you can look for FCPX projects or do jobs in FCPX without needing to worry as much about compatibility with other post folks or agencies.
Shawn
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[Shawn Miller] “As a freelancer, I imagine you can look for FCPX projects or do jobs in FCPX without needing to worry as much about compatibility with other post folks or agencies.”
Yes, I just have to be compatible with whatever workflow the company, agency, team, or individual producer/director I am working for at the time is using. But that is as true of using Premiere or AVID as it is FCP 10. Has it ever been different?
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