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FCP X Colour Correction Pics?
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[Walter Soyka] “Or maybe this color interface was designed with multi-touch in mind? Apple sells iPads, not trackballs.”
And given Apple sells its own hardware it may open the door for color grading controls on iPad . . . but it’s all about the speed of workflow though. Screen touch interfaces aren’t the most tactile. On the other hand many old CMX style editors wanted that dial to shuttle tape and bought ShuttlePros. I wonder how many are using those now. On the other third hand, I don’t want to have to look at the iPad to see if I’m hitting the right spot. I want to keep my eyes on the monitor and generally having a thing to grab is easier.
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[Walter Soyka] “Smoke’s all-in-one value proposition is more compelling when it’s the last tool in the chain.
Agreed. I was really thinking more about a multi-suite facility. In that case, a variety of special-purpose and general-purpose tools makes the most sense.
As far as FCP X as the primary grading tool – or even Smoke for that matter – the issue is the grading workflow. The actual toolset might be comparable to Color, but the workflow isn’t. Not enough info to know yet, but that’s why one might still want Resolve in the overall mix.
Same for Pro Tools. Plus you’ve got to remember marketing appeal. Pro Tools, Resolve and Smoke still bring a name recognition that FCP doesn’t have and FCP X won’t have either for many clients, no matter how good.
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Odd thing about all this is that it’s been 20 plus hours and those pics are still available. The Motion pics were pulled quickly and the Twitter poster’s account was closed in that case. You’d think Apple would have had Twitter pull those pics at this point.
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[Craig Seeman] “it’s all about the speed of workflow though. Screen touch interfaces aren’t the most tactile”
I agree. That’s why I used Color and now Resolve with a panel.
This is exactly the sort of thing that makes people question whether Apple is targeting professionals with this release, though. With all these features in the NLE, it’s not unreasonable to question if Color will continue to exist with as a separate app. With this new visual representation of the color manipulators, it’s not unreasonable to question if a professional control surface will work. It would be a big step down to lose the use of a panel for grading with Final Cut.
Just a couple weeks at most until we find out…
Walter Soyka
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[Craig Seeman] “Also, for many, a control surface is a must for fast color correcting especially if that’s the last stage in a long form production. That’s usually color wheel based.”
I want to see an iPAD be the control surface. The technology is already there and it would be easy to have a surface that you could gesture with instead of rolling balls around and touching nobs with your fingers.
The sleek flat glass surface of a touch panel or an iPAD would be a great control surface with a keyboard nearby.
Many people are using a tablet and pen for this so a touch surface would be nice too.
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Interesting but there’s Gradiest in the App Store
https://www.actfocused.com/
$80 and works with FirstLight.
I believe they mention other support in the works. Perhaps for FCPX color grading. It does look like a “wheel” solution and it’s still not the same as a tactile controller.[Walter Soyka] “I agree. That’s why I used Color and now Resolve with a panel.”
It may be that Apple feels it can’t compere with Resolve without a significantly unprofitable R&D. It may be the same reasoning behind Shake’s demise as well.
All this doesn’t make FCPX less “Pro.” It may be an acknowledgment that many pros are more likely to use specialized apps and Apple has not financial reason to compete with those apps.
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See this as a possible direction.
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[Walter Soyka] “With this new visual representation of the color manipulators, it’s not unreasonable to question if a professional control surface will work. It would be a big step down to lose the use of a panel for grading with Final Cut.”
3 wheels style tools can still exist as filters or 3rd party plugins within FCPX, and they could probably support control panels… so as long as its safe to assume that there will still be 3rd party plug-ins (and a sleek in app purchase system for plug-ins).
Baselight’s FCP tool for one… does it support control surfaces?
if there is a vacuum, someone will write software to fill it. if color dies great new tools will compete to take its place.
I still give a chance to a new approach that involves multi-touch…
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[Hector berrebi] “if there is a vacuum, someone will write software to fill it. if color dies great new tools will compete to take its place.”
This is already happening — the pace of development of color and finishing systems is absolutely staggering.
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[Craig Seeman] “See this as a possible direction.
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/2090“damn…. 80$… way overpriced in my opinion
tangent device makes one for free that works with color
https://www.tangentdevices.co.uk/products_vwave.asp
its fun to use with a lap top, or on small short projects
and i show it to my classes to emphasis the benefits of a color control panel. the part in the lecture where i pass the iPad around and people grade what’s on the projector using it always brings out the WOWsHector Berrebi
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