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  • Hector Berrebi

    June 13, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    [David Battistella]
    FCP is fast for breaking down the marble block but not as good at the detailed edits as AVID (was, and I mean was). “

    In my opinion, the only true advantages Avid trim tools have over FCP are:
    better play-loop options.
    avid stops at left of cuts, and trims and sees the left side of the cut (I hope version X will finally learn this complex maneuver) .
    and Avid behaves logically when trimming two sides that are not on the same track (FCP shows black on one side…).

    There obviously are other differences, but I don’t think they are crucial (like 4 screen display …)

    Beside these ,on current FCP, using a good keyboard layout and the trim tool, I am just as fast as I am on Avid. I even think apple added a few features to trim that Avid should look at adopting (multiple frame trim for one)

    I am curious… What avid trim options do you lack in FCP?

    hector

    Hector

    Hector Berrebi
    prePost Consulting

  • Hector Berrebi

    June 13, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    [Brian Mulligan] “Looks like more people should look at Autodesk Smoke. It has had integrated tools and a single viewer interface for years.”

    🙂 SMOKE has been my new escape plan for a while …

    I really like what it has become in past years, and it trully earns its “high-end” badge.
    Price is still a turn-off so are requirements (at least when comparing to the others)

    But I’m definitely looking in to it more and more

    Hector Berrebi
    prePost Consulting

  • Walter Soyka

    June 13, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    [Brian Mulligan] “Looks like more people should look at Autodesk Smoke. It has had integrated tools and a single viewer interface for years.”

    Brian, are you suggesting Smoke for creative editorial as well as finishing?

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Brian Mulligan

    June 13, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “rian, are you suggesting Smoke for creative editorial as well as finishing?”

    We have 2 Smokes at WTHR-TV. We do anything from :10 spots to 1 hr. shows. We edit everything from scratch on them. We do the ditorial and the finishing at the same time. And if a change is needed, it’s easy, because it’s all in the box.

    Smoke is still a bit pricey… but it’s a solid program, with unmatched quality.

    Here is my latest reel, a bit graphic heavy.. but that’s how our work and style has developed. All in Smoke, except for the 3D [13] logo.

    https://youtu.be/F9-QT2enIPU

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  • Oliver Peters

    June 13, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Seems like a facility design based on FCP X, Resolve, Pro Tools (or Logic) and Smoke would be very good. FCP X for 80% of the work and all creative cutting. Smoke for the true finishing.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • David Battistella

    June 13, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    [Hector berrebi] “I am curious… What avid trim options do you lack in FCP?”

    I have always found going in and out of trim mode in FCP a bit, well, Clunky.

    I liked the four image trim in AVID, something FCP never really had.

    I’m as fast in FCP and I prefer it now because it has SO many advantages and the image quality is better.

    The scrubbing tool is better in AVID as well.

    David

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  • Jose Lomeña

    June 13, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Do you mix audio into Smoke?

  • Walter Soyka

    June 13, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “FCP X, Resolve, Pro Tools (or Logic) and Smoke would be very good. “

    It’s a pity Smoke has only three secondaries in the color corrector. Having to work Resolve into the workflow complicates it a bit.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Misha Aranyshev

    June 13, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    First, Smoke has Source/Record layout too if you want it.
    Second, Insert/Overwrite is a mode in Smoke. Well it is a mode in almost every other editor but that’s just shows how with all the fuss we make online we still would settle for mediocre and outright stupid interface.

  • Oliver Peters

    June 13, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Having to work Resolve into the workflow complicates it a bit.”

    You don’t HAVE to. FCP X and Smoke can each do about 80-90% of the grading that most editors will want. But if you are a facility that seriously sells color grading with the talent to back it up, Resolve is the best option in this price tier. There are two caveats, though. 1. No Color X is released, and 2. the (eventual) Baselight plug-in for FCP X doesn’t prove to be more powerful.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

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