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  • John Chay

    June 30, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    It sounds like it would be a nightmare to try and time out an hour long show.

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  • Adam Mccune

    June 30, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Uggh. Can we stop with the “New Coke” references? And the Luddite tag? And the re-posting of Conan’s video.

    I get it. You hate it. Everyone who is a pro flippin hates it. My grandmother hates. Well, I dunno about that, but she probably does.

    I’m going to go edit something…

    Writer/Radio host/Community Media Advocate

  • Misha Aranyshev

    June 30, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Chris, when the first person to cut a 35 mm feature in FCP 1 tells you something’s wrong with FCPX and the second guy tells you the same it is not because they are afraid of anything new. There should be some other reasons.

  • Steven Gonzales

    June 30, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    There’s a lot of impolite dismissal of opinion on this board.

    When it hits Shane Ross, I get ruffled.

    He’s provided balanced and invaluable info on competitive software product, and I’ve benefited from his advice on each.

    So I’ll throw one thing into the fray:

    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    — Douglas Adams

  • Adam Mccune

    June 30, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”

    and what on Earth is “impolite dismissal” and how was I guilty of it. Is it anything like feigned moral outrage?

    He’s Nth person to say “New Coke” …we are creative people, we can do better.

    Writer/Radio host/Community Media Advocate

  • Shane Ross

    June 30, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Sorry. I just am one of the people that fought long and hard for this town (Los Angeles) to accept FCP as a viable option for editing broadcast productions. YEARS of proving what FCP can do..standing up to the critics and Avid-editors who wanted to ridicule and point and laugh. And now they all say “see, I told you so!” Or the mad producers who are irked that I steered them towards a product that has no upgrade path, and is EOL. They can use it for a few more years, but as technology advances, they need to look elsewhere.

    Good thing Avid will support AJA and BMD and Matrox hardware in the future. Otherwise they’d REALLY be hosed.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Shane Ross

    June 30, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    [Adam McCune] “He’s Nth person to say “New Coke” …we are creative people, we can do better.”

    If the analogy fits… go with it. Coke had a formula that worked. Then the tried to change it…and EVERYONE ran out to stock up on old Coke. Only a few people liked the new Coke. The departure was too radical.

    Similar thing here.

    FCP X changed everything, and took out all that we loved about FCP. ANd I mean EVERYTHING. So now people are scrambling to buy FCP 7 while they can, stockpile. And I hope that Apple sees the light and releases FCP Classic…then gradually go back to making professional software. Keep FCP X…but call it what it is…FCE X.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Paul Dickin

    June 30, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    [Shane Ross] “…the magnetic timeline pushing things down…”
    Hi
    Hindsight will show that you are floundering in misunderstanding.
    Chris has explained repeatedly there is no ‘up’ or ‘down’. Its all an interface metaphor, and perfectly workable in such a clip-connection manner once understood.

    YOU may need ‘tracks’ to work, but your AAF/OMF output software and 8-track audio SDI connectivity doesn’t.
    What’s needed is metadata to identify which timeline asset belongs to which output channel. An interface which allows that to be allocated doesn’t inherently need ‘tracks’.

    It needs an editor who understands how to drive the interface.
    Audio metadata tagging will come ‘later this summer’ say Apple.

    Other things needed may never happen, But that’s not a GUI fault.

  • Adam Mccune

    June 30, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    I totally understand the anger, especially from someone who has invested time (and money) into an entire platform.

    I have a lot less at stake. I’ve got a copy, it’s working alongside FCP7 and for my purposes, it works. 99% of the other users, I’m seeing that is not the case.

    …this is a good reminder for me as well. I think I’m going to hop off this forum and on to the techniques forum. No use pissing off a bunch of people that are pros that I could learn from.

    I think the real interesting thing is to see what Avid and Adobe do in response. That, perhaps, is the only way to get Apple to change it up.

    Writer/Radio host/Community Media Advocate

  • Adam Mccune

    June 30, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Except that you still have a whole warehouse of the “old Coke” at your disposal…at least for the foreseeable future.

    Writer/Radio host/Community Media Advocate

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