FCP X 10.3.2 and QNAP shared storage

[Brett Sherman]

If you can limit your shared storage space partitioning to hard drive size – 6 or 8 tb – then you can mirror to a set of 2 individual drives per shared volume. I just don’t like the idea of a RAID being a backup. There is too much that can go wrong. With 2 single drives you have good redundancy. And you have a permanent backup. When your RAID fills up, you just delete the oldest partition and keep the backup drives as an archive.

I run a nightly synchronization on one of the backup drives. The other one stays in my house. Then I swap them every couple days. Simple and cheap. But downtime and restoration is the weak part with this scheme. You can always use the backup drives as local drives in a pinch. Also it works best if you only make changes to the newest partitions, essentially icing the old ones and using them for media file access only.

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Brett Sherman
One Man Band (If it\’s video related I\’ll do it!)
I work for an institution that probably does not want to be associated with my babblings here.

[Marco Feil]

@Bob I’m in germany.

@Matt It wouldn’t be RAID as a replacement for backup, but a second RAID as storage for backups ????

The idea to partition the RAID is something I’ll think about, thanks. That would help managing and transferring backups between location A and B.

Something like:
– Ingest media to multiple 6- 8TB volumes and keep project libraries and things like fusion/AE comps and on a separate (SSD?) volume.
– While volume Media01 is filled with footage I do daily backups to an external 8TB disk Backup01 which will be copied weekly to the offsite NAS.
– Since the project files aren’t that big, they can easily be copied over the internet to location B or any kind of cloud backup in addition to a USB disk backup.
– Once Media01 is full, start with Media02 and Backup02. The disk Backup01 could be reused or goes to a third location.

I kinda like this idea, I’ll definitely consider this.

[Robert Broussard]

Bob, does Synology have any particular models that perform well like the QNAP 871T? I can see using the NAS as a media server via Plex, editing media with FCPX, and general file serving for a small group…. sometimes it’s just one user but he often has 3-5 computers going at once that are processing something. I’m just wondering about compelling options–I know you’re hot on QNAP right now and with good reason.

Thanks,

Robert

[Robert Broussard]

Bob, when populating a modern QNAP NAS (like the TVS-871T) which drive mechanism would you recommend? I’m assuming there are a couple of specific Hitachi drives that would be recommended.

Thanks,

Robert

[Bob Zelin]

Brett – Mr. one man band –

the QNAP is DIRT CHEAP. You can get a TS-531 for about 500 bucks and an 8 drive TS-831 for 800 bucks. This is a fraction of the price of any generic Thunderbolt 2 RAID array. Because this is SO cheap, you keep your single drive system at RAID 5 or RAID 6, and then buy a SECOND SYSTEM (both cost less than a single generic Thunderbolt 2
RAID array), and backup with QNAP’s RTRR program, or one of the programs that you are familiar with – like Carbon Copy Cloner, ChronoSync, etc. This way, you have RAID and true BACKUP.

And remember, I am discussing shared storage, not storage for a “one man band” unless you occationally hire a drummer to come in and help you with his laptop running FCP X.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Bob Zelin]

HGST NAS and WD RED work wonderfully.
Of course, HGST GOLD and Enterprise work perfectly as well.
I keep hearing about Seagate Ironwolf, and how great they are, but I will let someone else
be the guinea pig on these drives.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Robert Broussard]

Bob, I noticed that the IronWolf drives are rated at only half the MTBF of an HGST enterprise drive and the reliability specs indicate there is some limit to the usage level. That is, it’s apparently not intended for high volume, 24/7 use.

If I recall correctly, the WD Red is a variable speed drive that could often be running less than a 7200 rpm, can you really still get the 900/MBs I/O via 10G and use FCPX effectively, with less than dedicated 7200 rpm drives?

Thanks,

Robert

[Bob Zelin]

boy, you are analyzing this way too much. JUST SPEND SOME MONEY ALREADY, and stop reading all the specs.
HGST NAS drives are cheap. WD RED come in 5200 RPM and 7200 RPM – so get the 5200 RPM.
And the QNAP comes in a 12 bay and 16 bay (and 24 bay and 8 bay) rack mount version.
I am just trying to show you something that costs VERY VERY LITTLE MONEY so that you stop researching and just BUY SOMETHING. If I find out in 2018 that you still don’t own something, I am flying to Germany and I am going out drinking with you – and you will be in big trouble the next morning.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Bill Davis]

[Bob Zelin] “And remember, I am discussing shared storage, not storage for a “one man band” unless you occationally hire a drummer to come in and help you with his laptop running FCP X. “

But…

What if it’s Stewart Copeland?

Is that OK?

; )

Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

[Erik Wallin]

This is great news indeed. What is the version of QNAP OS (firmware) that you are testing?

We’ve got the latest stable release (4.2.4), and that doesn’t seem to support FCPX.

There are two beta firmwares released after that
4.3.3.0095 build 20170216 Beta
4.3.3.0136 build 20170328 beta2

Are you using any of those two? Are there any settings that have to be changed to make this work? I assume SMB protocol version 3, but we have already set that.

/Erik

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