Activity › Forums › Creative Community Conversations › FCP has never had Tape Based Output!!!
-
FCP has never had Tape Based Output!!!
Paul Buhl replied 14 years, 4 months ago 10 Members · 26 Replies
-
Misha Aranyshev
June 21, 2011 at 5:32 pm[Lou Borella] “The point is that you NEEDED to buy 3rd party hardware for the Edit to Tape function to be useful outside of DV or DV50 footage!!! “
The point is there was an interface for third-party hardware built-in right int FCP 1. There is none in FCPX. Read AJA documents about their beta drivers.
-
Lou Borella
June 21, 2011 at 5:38 pmSo the beef is about the lack of an interface.
I get it …
even though the interface was useless for ingest/output unless paired with 3rd party software.And I did read the AJA pdf on the BETA drivers. BETA DRIVERS.
Because I have a KONA LHe card and a BVW-75 and a AJ-SD93 I was very curious about tape based support. But you know what. I HAVEN’T USED ANY OF MY DECKS IN ABOUT 2 YEARS!!!
Almost every camera crew sends me footage on harddrives or SD cards at this point.
I can’t remember the last time I bought tapestock. I can’t even remember the last time I added bars to the beginning of a sequence!!!The software was released THIS MORNING.
-
Misha Aranyshev
June 21, 2011 at 5:52 pm[Lou Borella] “The software was released THIS MORNING.”
Fine. Put it on the shelf for a month an see if some missing pieces of code will magically grow.
-
Lou Borella
June 21, 2011 at 6:00 pmYou mean like an update?
Or maybe a 3rd party plugin?
Or a driver set for a capture card?Sigh … you’re right. That probably will not happen.
I think I’ll switch to Premiere. The production bundle is only $1700 and Adobe hasn’t been gouging their customers for years now with feeble updates at full pricing. Or I can go with the wonderful subscription pricing.
Or maybe I’ll switch to AVID. Lord knows every time they release a new version of any number of their editing products everything goes smoothly. Maybe my user settings will work next time without having to rebuild them.
Or how about Vegas. They are kind of a viable option at this point right?5 hours and counting ….
-
Misha Aranyshev
June 21, 2011 at 6:11 pm[Lou Borella] “Maybe even earlier since AJA already has beta drivers available.”
You don’t understand what you’re talking about. AJA beta is simply an extended desktop. Two color space conversions, unknown quality deinterlacer and scaler. Totally useless.
-
Lou Borella
June 21, 2011 at 6:18 pmTHEY ARE BETA DRIVERS FOR GOODNESS SAKE.
BETA.
Don’t you understand what that means?
NOT FINAL YET!!!
WILL BE UPDATED!!!Do you think AJA is just going to close up shop or maybe stop supporting Apple products?
Do you really think they can survive as a company supporting just Vegas and Premier?Did you forget to mention that you can LOG AND CAPTURE AND MASTER TO TAPE FROM EXTERNAL SOURCES WITH THESE DRIVERS or did you conveniently omit it from your post to make your point?
No its not built into FCPX yet. But its less than 6 hours old at this point!!!
-
Misha Aranyshev
June 21, 2011 at 7:00 pmDon’t yell at me. “Beta” means “not all the bugs cleaned out”. Beta doesn’t mean “using totally different API (application programming interface) than release”.
[Lou Borella] “Did you forget to mention that you can LOG AND CAPTURE AND MASTER TO TAPE FROM EXTERNAL SOURCES WITH THESE DRIVERS or did you conveniently omit it from your post to make your point?”
It’s irrlevant. AJA VTR Xchange is completely different application and has nothing to do with FCPX.
-
Lou Borella
June 21, 2011 at 7:08 pmThe AJA drivers are BETA drivers.
Meaning NOT THE FINAL version.
Meaning that they have room to grow.
CONSIDERING THE HOST SOFTWARE IS ONLY 6 HOURS THEY PROBABLY WILL GET BETTER.
Meaning they could mature to support more of the AJA hardware family.
Meaning just like FCP V1 they could create functionality that wasn’t there.
Like the ability to INGEST/OUTPUT TO SOURCES OTHER THAN FIREWIRE.
Which is one of the complaints on this board about the new version of FCPX even though it never existed in the original version without 3rd party support. -
Tom Daigon
June 21, 2011 at 7:09 pmLou,
FYI AJA supports not only FCP, Vegas, Adobe but also Avid, Autodesk (Smoke, etc), Fusion, Cineform, Nuke and Media 100. Just to keep your facts straight. 😉Tom Daigon
Avid DS / FCP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com -
Lou Borella
June 21, 2011 at 7:16 pmI never said it didn’t.
But most of those products are supporting applications.
Meaning that they are used in conjunction with other applications.
they are not a primary source of injest of material.
Fusion, Cineform, Nuke usually get their footage from edit workstations that have already acquired footage from sources like FCP AVID VEGAS or Premier.I would bet the installed user base of FCP with an AJA product installed far outnumbers the Nuke, Cineform, AutoDesk and Media100 workstations with an AJA product installed. Mostly because those secondary workstations are complimentary to the edit stations where ingest happens.
AJA would be hurting if they lost the FCP community.
Media100? Seriously?
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up