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FCP 7 Shortcomings
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Dennis Radeke,
I agree. I think that is another plus for Avid and Adobe. They do indeed work on both Mac and PC.
I find the threads that cut down Adobe CS4 to be chidlish. Folks, forget CS4 even existed. Why wouldn’t you want or even expect Blu-Ray support? HD is indeed here. It is 2009 not 1999. FCS should be a complete package form start to finish.
If you folks like FCS that is OK but if it has a few short commings be honest about them rather than bashing Adobe. Bashing Adobe will not make FSC any better.
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In the end, if he screwdriver doesn’t work, get a different screwdriver.
Yes, FCP left alot to be desired in the latest release, but when did anyone ever put out a new version of software and you proclaimed “Dangit, this has everything I ever needed and wanted, and all my quibbles about it are gone!”? Don’t hear that too often.
Premier Pro is indeed a player in this, and along with Encore can do some things that FCP and DVDSP can’t. But, that’s why I use AE for some things, and Motion for others. Our shop used Encore to make some BluRay discs for a client, and while it wasn’t the walk in the park we wanted, we got it to work, and it worked great for our needs. Would it have been nice to do it in DVDSP? Absolutley.
And, as I think about it, I made a comment about people crabbing about raising the price 25% if Apple included BluRay stuff into FCP, and i though that people wouldn’t go for it. I am doing something that doesn’t happen on this forum much. I am changing my opinion. I would definatly pay more for BluRay support. But, just because I don’t like some things about FCP doesn’t mean I’m going to jump ship.
Plus I have other grudges against Premier.
OK, back to work.
Its more fun to ride a slow motorcycle fast than a fast motorcycle slow…
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Matt Gerard,
I doubt many user will jump ship to Adobe. I agree there are work arounds but what if Encore, DoStudio and Vegas did not exist? Like I said it is 2009 and Blu-Ray is here.
I do agree to some extent with what you wrote because FCS does work. I just don’t think bashing Adobe is wise. I know your were not bashing Adobe.
This thread would be valid if it were 2007 but Blu Ray has won the HD war and there are really no excuses for Apple. Every FCS user should be able to admit that. I know some can but others can not. I am sorry if I offended anyone but other programs have indeed had Blu-Ray support for years. It can be done.
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I got an e-mail yesterday (28th) from a company (Future Media Concepts) asking me to join in on some courses for final cut pro 7.
I was like WHAT !!!!!!!
directly went to apple site and still saw the iphone on the homepage. Then I was confused and a little bit diapointed.
scrolled down and saw the shiny white box.I checked the apple site alomost everyday until WWDC when they anouced snow leopard. So I thought they would upgrade it after snow leopard came out.
But still can’t really complain. I bought FCS 1 3 months before FCS 2 came out. Very frustrated I dicided to skip FCS 2 and make money wit this one. Then last year it got tricky working in team or for company’s that had fcs 2 and the xml transfers wich were always a bit messy.
But now I see I can upgrade for only 299€ after I saved up 800€ for the upgrade from 1 to 3.
Not the best upgrade (2 => 3).
Still for 299€ I get Color, upgraded programs, prores, etc in a nice FCS 2+.
If multi processor awareness is there then it is a FCB3 (or FCS as apple want to call it now)I’ll still have some projects to do and then I ‘ll go get FCS(3) with Leopard and do a full clean new install from Leopard and FCS.
curious question.
In FCS 2 wre there improvements to the speed change quality in fcp?
Now I use twixtor but it is quit a render hog.thankx and may all your final cut dreams come thru.
Macpro quad 2x 3ghz (2007) | 11GB RAM |
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Love my intel Mac Pro, Seamless (tapeless) P2 workflow.
I use both FCS2 and Adobe Master Collection CS4 together all on my MAC Pro everyday and can’t imagine it any other way.
If I could get Motion to work like After effects and not crash or freeze up, if I could render H264 to .f4v from Compressor like I do in Adobe media encoder, maybe then I could get by with out half of the Adobe creative suite.
“LOVE” Apple, but everyone needs photoshop and illustrator! if there is any hope for graphic design… apple has nothing on these products.
I pray that Apple has plans to keep pushing their Pro apps forward, I am demoing AUTODESK Smoke/flame this week, looks like Japanese… UGH!
FCS2, CS4 Master collection, Cinema 4D R11, MAC Pro 8 core 10GB, Panasonic HPX 170.
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Having worked on Smoke for several years, I would jump at the chance to get back on it for finishing work. It’s an extremely efficient interface and is a truly integrated suite of tools – no “roundtripping” required. If you’re in a market that can support the cost of one of those systems, give it a chance.
Joe Murray
Edit at Joe’s
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How long a show have you cut on Smoke?
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
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I wouldn’t use Smoke for basic editorial, but for finishing and effects, when the client is over the shoulder or the deadline is really tight. Although if you count Fire, I have finished a 1 hour PBS special in HD on Smoke’s big brother.
Joe Murray
Edit at Joe’s
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My old place bought a smoke and I got to play around with it. I did the tuts an messed with some projects. You gotta think totally different when working with it. I didn’t get the chance to become comfortable with it, but I could see where it would be great for alot of things. Plus knowing arcane operating systems is a plus if you don’t have a tech support staff 😉
Matt
Its more fun to ride a slow motorcycle fast than a fast motorcycle slow…
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FCP all the way! LiveType effects totally predictable. And FCP’s price point = more accessible.
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