FCP 7 killed in Yosemite?

[Alok Agrawal]

Hey Jeremy,

Have you heard of people installing an additional HD using the space for a DVD drive on a Macbook Pro? Do you think this is a better method than partitioning the original HD? Would I be able to boot an older or newer OS X using both methods? Thanks again.

Sincerely,
Neel

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Alok Agrawal] “Have you heard of people installing an additional HD using the space for a DVD drive on a Macbook Pro?”

Yes, I did that with my old laptop, it worked very well. I used the OWC kit to do it.

[Alok Agrawal] “Do you think this is a better method than partitioning the original HD?”

It allows for more hard drive space.

[Alok Agrawal] “Would I be able to boot an older or newer OS X using both methods?”

Yes.

[Alok Agrawal]

Hey Jeremy,

Thanks for the help. I think I’m going to get the kit from OWC and an SSD HD to put in it. Thanks for the responses, you seem to know a lot about computers. Do you plan on upgrading to Yosemite when it comes out?

Sincerely,
Neel

[Mark Suszko]

Alok, two things:

You might consider that your teacher isn’t God. Or Walter Murch 🙂

And you might want to save up to buy FCPX for your personal exploration and use.

[Alok Agrawal]

Hey Mark,

I totally understand what you are saying. Do you have Final Cut Pro X? Do you like it? I am wondering which system is going to be dominant 5-10 years down the line. I was using Final Cut Pro 7 about ten years ago and thought it would be around forever. When they made the switch to Final Cut Pro X I didn’t upgrade because I fond that most of the people using it were initially unhappy. Is there a sharp learning curve?

Sincerely,
Neel

[Andrew Kimery]

[Alok Agrawal] “I am wondering which system is going to be dominant 5-10 years down the line”

No one knows. In the past 5 years all three of the Big A’s (Adobe, Apple, Avid) have all dropped the ball and seemingly snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

My long term plan is not to have a long term plan. 😉 I’m no longer working under the assumption that the NLE I’m using today will be the NLE I’m using in 5 years (or even three years). I think learning multiple NLE’s is more important than ever. I’m currently well versed with FCP 7, Avid MC and Premiere Pro. I haven’t touched FCP X yet (thought that will change eventually) and waiting in the wings are Resolve 11 and Lightworks.

Hitching one’s wagon to a single NLE, like so many did with FCP 7, is a recipe for disaster.

[Mark Suszko]

Alok, we’re long-term FCP7 users in my shop, and this year we got copies of FCPX and Adobe Premiere CS (non-cloud version) to play with for a year and try to come to a consensus as to which system we can all standardize on in the shop, for the future. Standardization is important in our operation: we want every workstation rigged the same so any producer/editor can jump in and finish another person’s project when they are away.

I have not spent time on Premiere yet but have been using the Larry Jordan tutorial DVD to work with FCPx, and I’ve cut together some very simple things with it so far.
I was one of those that did not think it was ” ready for Prime Time” when it came out, but now, it has matured enough to be a serious platform again, and I think it has a lot of potential. It’s also a cheap platform, and so far, not tied so tightly to the “cloud” as Adobe is.

Here’s the thing, and maybe your teacher will agree with me: it isn’t ultimately important which specific platform you train on in school. The point of the schooling isn’t to get a certification as an Avid, PRemiere, or Final Cut editor. But to learn how to be an EDITOR.

What you need to be learning is not so much what button does what, but WHY we’re pushing it, and when. Specifically, you need to be learning the core skills of the editing process and a theory and aesthetic understanding of editing, more so than any particular platform. If you had to, once you’ve learned one platform, you can transition to another, generally, in just a few days. But without that background and practice in understanding HOW to cut to tell a story, convey a feeling… well, you could be replaced by an app.

Andrew makes a good point that goes along with mine: in five years we may all be switching to something else. What remains useful are these core skills, and the rest, well, we have to periodically re-learn to keep up.

[Sean Lander]

I really hope FCP 7 is put out to pasture by Yosemite. It’s time for it to go away. It’s nearly 5 years without a significant update! I just can’t handle the rigours of modern media anymore.

Don’t care what people choose, just want to work on good stable systems that a built for today’s world.

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[Alok Agrawal]

Hey Andrew,

I have worked with Final Cut Pro 7, Avid Mediacomposer, and Premiere. The only one I didn’t really like was Premiere. I had a lot of trouble navigating the functions in that software. I really like Final Cut Pro 7 the best, but I’m getting a little bit better with Avid.

Sincerely,
Neel

[Alok Agrawal]

Hey Mark,

I completely agree that is the aesthetic and craft of the editor that makes all the difference. I originally started on a Steenbeck flatbed editing 16mm film. In fact, most of my projects were shot on 16mm, transferred to Mini DV and edited in Final Cut Pro 7. To tell you the truth, I think a lot of knowledge can be gained by watching films as well as taking classes. I’m not being trained specifically as an editor, I really want to direct films, but I feel it is important to understand the basics. Your shop sounds pretty cool. I have played around with Adobe Premiere but I didn’t really like it. I mostly had trouble with the fact that it wouldn’t snap to edit points in the timeline. I’m pretty happy with Avid, but Final Cut Pro 7 is really my favorite.