FCP 5.0 and the Media Mangler

[Josephine Healey]

Can you tell us what you’re media manager settings are, it’s gotta be something in those. I heard it was actually supposed to be better in 5.0 so maybe something’s different.

[Wayne Franklin]

I’ve only done about 45 sequences this way in the past couple of weeks (under 4.5), so I’m pretty sure of my settings, but here goes:

COPY media referenced by duplicated items
Include render files: YES
Include master clips outside selection: NO
Delete unused media from duplicated items: YES
Use handles: NO
Include affiliate clips outside selection: NO
(Media file names don’t really matter here, but I’m basing them on CLIP names)
Duplicate selected items and place into a new project: YES

Thanks for the reply!

[Rob Tinworth]

I have an only slightly related question –

FCP5 has not yet reached us in deepest darkest Asia (I believe the ponies are on the way). Has anyone tried recapturing speed-effected clips in FCP5? I have high hopes of Apple having fixed the media manager bug that threw crazy timecodes onto decomposed speed clips.

Rob
http://www.1021.tv

[Nick B]

Apple have said they have fixed speed-effected clips in media manager.

[Wayne Franklin]

I know my original question hasn’t been answered yet, but I have a another related one:

Has anyone tried conforming a project with handles in 5.0? Typically, whenever I would do that in 4.5, clips with overlapping handles owuld be a single media file — as they should be — but they would all be slipped so that the last frame of the clip corresponded to the last frame of the media. Is that still an issue?

Also, any insight on my post that started this thread would be really appreciated.

[Kevin Monahan]

I’ve heard that speed mods are supposed to be fixed, but I have not tried it yet.

Wayne, your problem is that you are missing the crucial step in that you need to “Make Sequence Clips Independent”. It’s a required step introduced in FCP 4 around 2003. Many people get tripped up by this because you don’t actually perform the step in the media manager. You do it prior to media managing a sequence.

It’s all spelled out in this article:
https://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/FCP_4_trim_dang_it.html

and, of course, in the manual. 😉

Kevin Monahan
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro
fcpworld.com

[Wayne Franklin]

Kevin,

Sorry I didn’t spell that out, but I did make the sequence clips independent. I also tried the trick of pasting copies of the sequences into a new, intermediate project. None of that works. I’m wondering if it could be an issue with the fact that the HDV clips don’t have a source name.

Mind you, I have done dozens of these in FCP HD 4.5 over the past month, and they have worked despite the lack of a source name, without making the sequence clips independent, and without introducing an intermediate project. (Making sequence clips independent did seem to help with some weird 1-frame audio/video sync issues in the conformed projects, though.)

Thanks for the advice, anyway.

-w-

[Nick Meyers]

dont have source name?
that;s weird.
didnt think that was possible.
a file HAS to have a name, doesnt it?

do they have a reel#? that might be the magic step
i know AIFFs DONT get trimmmed in a MM operaion, which is OK as they’re so small.

nick

[Wayne Franklin]

Sorry, I was sleepy in htat last post and didn’t use good terminology. By source, I meant reel. That files all had names. Some clips had differing names, but none had reel names or numbers. (I loaded evrything through Lumiere, then transcoded with MPEG Streamclip, which doesn’t preserve the reel names.) Either way, I was able to perform the MM functions successfully with those files under 4.5, but not in 5.0.

[John Treffer]

I can confirm this problem. For HDV material.
I just made a first test project,
– captured a few clips.
– set in/out points to one clip.
– CTRL-clicked the clip and choos media manager
SETTINGS:
media: Use existing
checked: delete unused media from selected items
unchecked: use handles
unchecked: duplicate selected items and place into a new project

(the bars for original and modified stay the same size)

– if I click okay I get a warning saying
(WARNING: This operation will permanently modify existing media files. This is not undoable, and any open projects referencing these media files will be saved.)
– when I click continue I see a progress bar for a split second. (way to fast to read what is progressing)
– than nothing appears to have happened, the clip length is the same and the last modified time of the clip as shown in the finder has not been changed since the capture.

Is this a bug that will be fixed or has the MM changed so strongly that this basic functionality just works differently?