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Ron Darby
May 5, 2014 at 7:42 amWhat’s wrong with adding tracks if it’s optional. If you don’t like it then you don’t have it use them , you can forget there even there, but more people might start buying FCPx and may be then Apple would give it more attention .
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Charlie Austin
May 5, 2014 at 7:58 am[ron darby] “What’s wrong with adding tracks if it’s optional. If you don’t like it then you don’t have it use them”
Nothing wrong per se, except it goes against the entire way that X functions, and would probably require re-writing a large part of the app. If you need “tracks”, secondary storylines work. Unless you feel you need *fixed* tracks.
[ron darby] “but more people might start buying FCPx and may be then Apple would give it more attention “
Why do you think they’re not giving it any attention?
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Scott Witthaus
May 5, 2014 at 10:30 am[David Cherniack] “Seriously, if it was optional, would you turn your nose up? “
If I want tracks and slow my workflow down, I would go back to Avid or worse, Premiere. If you want tracks that look like X, Resolve 11 is right around the corner. Tracks are good when charging by the hour. 😉
In my humble opinion, tracks are not coming back to FCP. Why would Apple do that? They just put time and effort into this totally new product and workflow. It works and it’s silly-fast. It’s like asking for a physical keyboard for an iPhone. Ain’t gonna happen. We just need to accept that this is the new Final Cut product and use it, or move on (or back to) to another product.
It’s like that old southern joke (I live in Virginia, btw): How many southerners does it take to change a lightbulb? Six. One to change it and the other five to talk about how great the old lightbulb was!
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David Mathis
May 5, 2014 at 12:28 pmThey could add tracks, but it would be subscription only just like . . . 🙂
Dodging food and other objects being thrown in my direction.
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Oliver Peters
May 5, 2014 at 1:00 pmThe benefit of tracks is better interchange with other applications. For example, moving audio to Logic Pro X is still substandard due to the lack of tracks in FCP X. That being said, I doubt tracks – as we understand them from other track-based applications – are even possible in FCP X.
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Jeremy Garchow
May 5, 2014 at 1:21 pmThe interchange of fcpxml to Logic Pro X is certainly substandard, but using AAF with a purpose built x2pro exporter works just like any other tracked based system.
If you use x2pro and setup even a cursory set of Roles, everything just works. You can even buy x2pro and not rent it.
I don’t need tracks, I just want fcpx to be a bit better. It’s getting there, but this latest update cycle seems like a really long break, even though it’s “normal”.
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Oliver Peters
May 5, 2014 at 1:34 pmI’ve never gotten X2Pro to work successfully for me, because of the source audio tracks and embedding. But I’ll try that once again tonight on my test project. AAF or FCP7 XML from Premiere or Xto7 into LPX didn’t work at all. I’ve actually had more accurate translations going FCPXML via Xto7 to XML and then into Audition.
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Walter Soyka
May 5, 2014 at 2:18 pm[Oliver Peters] “That being said, I doubt tracks – as we understand them from other track-based applications – are even possible in FCP X.”
Support for multiple primaries would essentially be support for tracks.
But then the toolset would need to be modified for primary patching.
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Andy Field
May 5, 2014 at 2:36 pmWhy are the editors dead set against tracks so enthusiastic about Roles? There wouldn’t be a need for roles if Apple hadn’t eliminated tracks. Roles are just adding another step to do what you can already do without them in every other NLE.
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Marcus Moore
May 5, 2014 at 2:40 pmAs Charlie says below, tracks aren’t possible to integrate with the other two principal paradigms of FCPX; connected clips and the magnetic timeline. Its an entirely different philosophy of clip management.
And I’d question your second statement- there’s no indication that FCPX isn’t selling. It may not be selling to all markets in equal measure, but Apple’s released statement of 1million+ installs isn’t “bad” by any measure, and is in fact much faster adoption than Legacy FCP. So I don’t see how Apple isn’t motivated to continue to develop it as they have been.
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