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FCP 10.1.2 Where are you?
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[Oliver Peters] “If you look at their historical marketing, Mac-specific products like IO and KONA were always shown with FCP “legacy” screen grabs.”
At the time FCP legacy was a big role player in higher end workflows. As much as I love and prefer FCPX the market, for various reasons, isn’t at that point (yet).
[Oliver Peters] “One of the big things people buying cameras are concerned about is workflow.”
But some have argued that FCPX has no specific advantage here as ProRes playback is widely supported. Granted Avid doesn’t seem to support 4K sources yet as I understand it.
Do you think PPro CC users would be influenced by seeing FCPX with CION? I don’t.
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[Craig Seeman] “But some have argued that FCPX has no specific advantage here as ProRes playback is widely supported. Granted Avid doesn’t seem to support 4K sources yet as I understand it.”
Which includes the comments I’ve made. This means any NLE could appear in the ad. Of course, that gets us back to “why FCPX?” And I’ve been arguing that there’s simply more to this decision than meets the eye.
Regarding Avid (Media Composer specifically), it absolutely supports 4K (and higher) source media in current versions, thanks to AMA and FrameFlex. The limitation is that timelines, transcodes and final outputs are currently restricted to a max of 1920×1080.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Craig Seeman] “Granted Avid doesn’t seem to support 4K sources yet as I understand it.”
Small correction here: Avid supports 4k sources, it simply downconverts everything to 1080 or 720 for output. So I guess technically your statement should be: “Avid doesn’t support 4k output yet.” I do believe they’re working on resolution independence, however, based on a recent conversation I had with one of their engineers.
Chris Conlee
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you could be right but this ad benefits apple more than cion.
newbiees will associate fcpx with this camera and will think that its the only nle for that camera.Apple is thinking of the future.
Ricardo Marty
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[Ricardo Marty] “you could be right but this ad benefits apple more than cion.
newbiees will associate fcpx with this camera and will think that its the only nle for that camera.”Unless they read the product brochure…
Shawn
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[Shawn Miller] “I’m not so sure that’s entirely correct, Oliver. I agree that this camera is aimed at filmmakers, but it seems like more of a budget “cinema camera” that isn’t aimed at DSLR shooters. I see it as an owner/operator/inexpensive rental camera. I think there’s a lot of pent up demand for sub 10k cameras that; have better than DSLR ergonomics, shoot lightly compressed CODECS, have greater than 8bit color depth and have professional i/o options (HD-SDI, phantom powered XLR, TC, etc). Higher dynamic range also seems to be higher on the list for budget digital cinema shooters than it used to be. I think the CION meets all of these requirements, as does the Ursa… if it ever ships. :-)”
A version of the Cion with an EF mount would change things quite a bit… just saying…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Hey!
Luckily, I’ve just been so busy that its hard to post, but I HAVE been reading along.
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[Mitch Ives] “[Shawn Miller] “I’m not so sure that’s entirely correct, Oliver. I agree that this camera is aimed at filmmakers, but it seems like more of a budget “cinema camera” that isn’t aimed at DSLR shooters. I see it as an owner/operator/inexpensive rental camera. I think there’s a lot of pent up demand for sub 10k cameras that; have better than DSLR ergonomics, shoot lightly compressed CODECS, have greater than 8bit color depth and have professional i/o options (HD-SDI, phantom powered XLR, TC, etc). Higher dynamic range also seems to be higher on the list for budget digital cinema shooters than it used to be. I think the CION meets all of these requirements, as does the Ursa… if it ever ships. :-)”
A version of the Cion with an EF mount would change things quite a bit… just saying…”
Agreed!
Shawn
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[Shawn Miller] “I think there’s a lot of pent up demand for sub 10k cameras that; have better than DSLR ergonomics, shoot lightly compressed CODECS, have greater than 8bit color depth and have professional i/o options (HD-SDI, phantom powered XLR, TC, etc). Higher dynamic range also seems to be higher on the list for budget digital cinema shooters than it used to be. “
you’d miss the crappy sd digibeta anamorphic with a prime for the fancy shoot.
it’s pure mad how competitive cameras are now.Just as well FCPX’s broader mission failed our end eh?
Sure as the avid man says – as long as you have to click on the keyframe to make it pink in the viewer to activate the keyframe adjustment, there is a finger in the dyke.
you’d wonder about that.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “Just as well FCPX’s broader mission failed our end eh?”
Define “our end”. It’s working pretty damn good on “our end”!
😉
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter
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