External Monitor with FCP 6 & Red 4.1

[Matt Mullen]

Joe,

I was able to get this to work with the latest version of Red.

First, In the preferences on the Preview Tab make sure the device and mode for the monitor output settings are correct.

Then under the Preview Menu select Connect External Monitor but also make sure you select Auto-Update Monitor.

Let me know if this helps you.

[Joe Widmer]

Matt – Thank you very much for looking into this.
I’m kind of freaking out though. I received the message below from you via creative cow e-mail, but this response is not appearing in the thread. Did you perhaps edit your response with the info about the latest version of Red? If so, it sounds like I need to update to that version. If that is the case, are you saying the the info below is not-valid after the upgrad?

I hope I’m not confusing you as well.
Thanks Matt!
Joe

Joe, It appears what you are seeing is not the exception. i was able to reproduce the issue as in I was able to gain external monitor preview with Red Standalone and Final Cut Pro, but not Red launched as a plug in. Unfortunately in order to get external monitor previews you will need to edit your titles/effects in Red and apply them back to Final Cut.

[Matt Mullen]

Yes Joe I updated my post. I was able to get it to work here, there is no need to freak out.

If it still does not work after the upgrade you need to triple check and post your settings for us to look at. Also the exact hardware and driver you are using.

[Joe Widmer]

Ok . . . now exiting freak out mode.
Thanks much Matt. I will try what you have suggested and let you know. I’m running on OSX 10.4.11. Is this sufficient for the latest Red 4.3 update?

Joe

[Matt Mullen]

Yes.

[Joe Widmer]

Good morning,
Just a follow-up. I upgraded to Boris Red 4.3 and my problem still exits. I am not able to view my Boris Red projects on my external monitor when I go into Boris Red via a Final Cut Pro effects filter.
I can however view Boris Red projects on my external monitor when when I go into red stand-alone mode.
Hmm. Maybe it’s a FCP issue.

Thanks!
Joe

[Matt Mullen]

Joe,

What AJA hardware and driver version are you using.

In the Preview Tab of the Red preferences what are your external monitor settings.

Then in the Red preview drop down menu do you have External monitor connected and Auto-Update Monitor checked? If you still get nothing what happens if you choose “display frame to monitor” ?

Also what are you using for a monitor and how is it connected.

[Joe Widmer]

Hi Matt,

My AJA hardware is the AJA IO LA.
I’m not sure what driver version I am using, and I’m embarrased to say that I’m not sure how to find out. I’m not seeing the software on the Mac nor can I find the driver. The AJA disc that I have is IO Driver Install Version 1.2 and includes support for IO, IOLA, AND IOLD. However, I’m not sure where to look to see if it is installed.

In my system profiler I am seeing the AJA Video Systems model 0x3 connected via Firewire.

Boris Red Preferences, Preview Tab Settings are:
External Monitor Output
Device: Apple ProIO uncompressed.
Mode: ProIO – NTSC US – Component YPbPr Betacam 525 – 10 bit 422.
Auto Connect at Launch is unchecked. (I have tried checking this but it doesn’t help. It simply informs me sooner that it is unable to connect to external monitor).

Boris Red preview drop-down menu:
When I select “Connect to external monitor” I see this message:
“Unable to connect to Apple ProIO uncompressed. Final Cut Pro is currently connected to the specified output device.”

Also, in the Boris Red Preview drop-down menu “Auto-Update Monitor” is checked, however at this stage it is not a selectable option (not highlighted or selectable with my mouse cursor).
The only time I can select or change these setting is when I access Boris Red in stand-alone mode, independently from Final Cut Pro.

The monitor I am using is a Sony PVM-2030 connected with S-Video and composite from my AJA IO LA break-out box. I am gettign video to he monitor with both inputs, but neither displays my Boris Red preview.

The AJA is connected to the Mac with FireWire.

Thanks for your assistance Matt!
Joe

[Matt Mullen]

Ok I don’t have this specific hardware to test but here is what we can look at to try and narrow down the issue.

You said it is working in Red as a standalone…what are the Monitor settings in Red standalone, make sure the settings with Red in Final Cut match what is working with Red standalone.

The error seems to indicate the hardware is having an issue with Final Cut and Red accessing the hardware at the same time so I’ll try to research that for you.

One last thing. How are you applying Red in Final cut? Generator? Static? or Filter?

-Matt

[Joe Widmer]

Matt,

Ext. Monitor settings are the same in both Red stand-alone and Red via FCP. One note though: When I access Red in stand-alone mode I am not able to select “Connect To External Monitor” in the Prewiew Pop Up Menu UNTIL I go into preferences and click ok without even changing any of the preferences settings. After, and only after backing out of preferences am I able to select “Connect To External Monitor.” Strange but true.

I generally applty Red as a filter. However I have experimented with the generator and static generator as well, with the same results.

Thank you for trying to help me out with this issue.
Joe