Encore & Blue Ray on the Mac

[Walter Biscardi]

[Mark Suszko] “Walter and the rest of you seem to mostly be thinking about fully-authored interactive BD titles, stuff for public release to the consumer, things that would go to a mass-replicator facility. And that kind of stuff I know is complicated even for SD DVD’s that we have NOW. “

No, all I’m talking about is a static Main Menu and a static Chapter Menu. Encore can’t even do that.

[Mark Suszko] “And I want to simply lay off HD programming to a BD disk, burn 20 or 50 copies in a BD capable Bravo printer, put a master BD disk on a shelf, and forget about it for a year or two, until someone needs it again. That’s about as simple as one could ask for. “

Again, Toast to burn the media, then get a Panasonic duplicator like we have. We’ve run 60 BluRay discs in one day here using the Panasonic duplicator to burn the discs and our FlexWriter IV to print them. Yes, what you’re asking is simple and it’s something you can achieve right now. Actually we’ve been using BD-R’s for over a year now and one thing we use the BD-R’s for is archiving projects.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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[Eric Pautsch]

Mark

Encore or DVDit Pro is fine for what you want to do. There are also several free options to build a BDMV folder if you look around the net.

[Mark Suszko]

So, any chance of a COW tutorial or podcast how-to for doing it?

Outlining the workflow and any particular settings, I mean?

[Eric Pautsch]

Possibly…that might be a good idea. Meanwhile follow this thread carefully:

https://forum.videohelp.com/topic350015.html

I know the title is Decrypting but it goes over the basic workflows. Remember, there is no free way to author menus at this point

[Walter Biscardi]

[Mark Suszko] “So, any chance of a COW tutorial or podcast how-to for doing it?

Outlining the workflow and any particular settings, I mean? “

You mean for archiving material? Just export a self contained Quicktime from your timeline, Launch Toast, drag the quicktime to Toast and burn using the Data setting. Be sure you have your BluRay burner selected for burning.

If you mean archiving your final video to BluRay and then being able to bring that back, no I would not recommend that. You’re still saving a re-compressed file that is degraded file from the HD original. I said the resulting BluRay “looks” identical to our HD originals, but of course it’s not. It’s been recompressed and i would not want to have to convert that MPEG-2 to Quicktime for further editing.

Actually just for that, Toast will probably work fine. Compress in Compressor and burn using Toast’s bluray settings. But again, I would not recommend the BluRay format itself as an archive format. I would still archive the Quicktime movie in the original HD codec.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

Damn, I wish HDDVD would have won. So. Much. Easier.

You can do it right now, as a matter of fact, in DVDSP on red laser discs, the only thing that was missing was blue laser HD DVD burners for macs.

Oh well…I digress.

I am usually not too much of a pessimist, but I don’t see DVDSP being updated anytime soon either. I would imagine it’s hovering around the middle of the FCS ‘to do’ list.

Although remember DVDSP v1? Wow, what a nightmare that was. It was also very expensive to get anything duplicated in any amount of quantity. I remember our first big dupe run we had to get 1000 discs made (and pay for all of them including the slop) even though we only needed 450. It has come a long way and perhaps BluRay for all video production will too. The war officially ended about 6 months ago, that’s not that long.

Jeremy

[Walter Biscardi]

[Jeremy Garchow] “I am usually not too much of a pessimist, but I don’t see DVDSP being updated anytime soon either. I would imagine it’s hovering around the middle of the FCS ‘to do’ list. “

I honestly hope Apple learns from Adobe and what happens when you rush headlong into something you really don’t understand just to be first. Adobe clearly wanted to be the first low cost BluRay authoring solution. They got that distinction, but they delivered an utter piece of crap.

NetBlender has a really nice solution and at $250/month license, it’s something that i can easily afford. A typical BluRay disc takes about 2 or 3 days to author and thoroughly test. So figure 20 business days per month we could conceivably author 10 titles in one month. That will easily make up the $250/month fee and earn us a nice profit.

AND with any luck we’ll have really nicely authored discs starting next month.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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[Paul Dickin]

[walter biscardi] “You have to buy Premiere anyway …so as long as Premiere works,”
Hi
It doesn’t – certainly for PAL/50Hz users in the UK 🙁

May 2008
Dear Ms. XXXX,
Premiere Pro and Encore CS3 were never tested on an Apple 8 core processor system, as that processor was not available to Adobe for testing before the release of the product. As a quick check for us to know how do Premiere Pro and Encore deal with your system information, please open Encore CS3 and under the Help menu, click on System Info, what does it say in there?

If you need any other Technical assistance, please feel free to contact us again.

Yours sincerely,
Sergio Cordeiro

Adobe Technical Support
Tel: (UK) 020 7365 0735
Tel: (Eire) 01 242 1553
Fax: 0031 20 5820875
Email: englishts@adobe.com

[Mitch Ives]

[Paul Dickin] “May 2008
Dear Ms. XXXX,
Premiere Pro and Encore CS3 were never tested on an Apple 8 core processor system, as that processor was not available to Adobe for testing before the release of the product. As a quick check for us to know how do Premiere Pro and Encore deal with your system information, please open Encore CS3 and under the Help menu, click on System Info, what does it say in there?

If you need any other Technical assistance, please feel free to contact us again. “

Well, that sort of confirms the experiences of people like Walter and myself. What was it they used to say about odd kids in school… “they’re special”. Well, I guess the 8-core is “special”.

FWIW, we’ve had problems here as well. Most of the companies don’t have an 8-core machine to test on, and when they do, it’s a 2007 model, whose architecture is completely different…

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
mitch@insightproductions.com