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  • Gary Huff

    September 26, 2011 at 1:23 am

    [Ewan Lim]Nothing could fully replace a Real camera, be it an A cam or B cam. Unless one would wanna get that stock home docu look.

    Why not?

  • Kim Krause

    September 26, 2011 at 9:02 am

    are you mad? an iPhone will never replace a real camera, in the same way that a synthesizer would never replace a real orchestra…but for some tasks i’m sure no one will notice! when was the last time a news cre went out in the field with a film camera and a sound man and a director and a lighting person and gaffer and a script person and a ….so on so on you get the idea! the right tool for the job is a good philosophy but why take the whole toolbox when all you need is a screwdriver!

  • Ewan Lim

    September 26, 2011 at 11:00 am

    One thing is the inability to control lighting situations unleed you whip out the app, almost dslr where you can lock focus and exposure. Either way, iPhone 4 doesn’t handle low lighting situations well… Maybe in future iPhone models.

    Also well… You probably can use it on most days where you have ideal situations. Like short films or scripted shoots.

    Ewan
    Avid, FCS3, Premiere Pro, After Effects

  • Tony Brittan

    September 26, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Another app you might look at for great control over shooting video on the iPhone is called Filmic Pro! It’s new an on sale right now. Quite the incredible little tool to have.

    I’ve actually snuck a tiny bit if B-Roll into expensive production pieces from my iPhone 4 in the past year and it’s never been picked out. In fact it sometimes gives that unique “real” look to to certain situations! You know…the stuff where you want it to look pedestrian or whatever, but still need quality that will fit in with the rest of your material. Now, I’m not using it for 95% of my pro work, but it’s kinda cool.

    I did start a separate YouTube channel to put video from my iPhone up there and keep it away from my regular work so as to not confuse folks. It’s:

    http://www.YouTube.com/tonysvideo4fun

    The earlier stuff on there was all shot on iPhone and edited right on the phone using a combo of ReelDirector, iMovie, and Splice. All have thier strengths and can do cool stuff like VO and titling…all differently from one another. There’s now apps like Red Giant’s “Movie Looks” that’s basically Magic Bullet Looks on the iPad/iPhone and it’s only 2.99 instead of $299 on the computer. Also CinemaFXV is mostly better than Movie Looks! You can stack effects and adjust accordingly. You’d be surprised at what’s out there. Even a Tilt Shift app for video and one called Movie Drops that’s full of HD backgrounds, that look great, and you can pick em up for $2.99 or less most of the time. Of course there’s also ColabraCam that I spoke about earlier where you can run up to 4 iPhones through an iPad, LIVE, multicam production with notes from the director (using the connected iPad) to each individual iPhone! You can tell cam b to go to a medium shot right through the system. I just recently bought that one bu haven’t used it much yet.

    Oh, and if you’ve gi an iPad….I would suggest that you shoot with iPhone, and edit on your iPad. Use one of the photo transfer apps that works with video and when you buy it on one device, you can install it, for free, on your other device(s). I’m using an app called Photo Transfer App.

    Now, this is all not a replacement for real equipment, proper planning, and talent. But as video production evolves, we may sometimes need different tools. This is just another set of them. And there’s more and more guerilla style video out there all the time! The stuff I’ve done on my iPhone/iPad combo is in no way polished and awesome. That’s why the YouTube channel is called tonysvideo4fun. I’m just experimenting with the tools for now. And it is fun. But you can’t discount the possibilities. Like I’ve heard before…”THE BEST CAMERA IS THE THE ONE YOU HAVE WITH YOU”. Stop by my YT channel and check em out. Particularly the Dominican Republic video and the (NSFW) Pigmans BBQ Coleslaw Wrestling video. There’s also one about big waves on our beaches.

    Sorry about any typ-o’s…that is one distinct disadvantage of using an iPad! 😉

    Tony Brittan
    Owner – Island Shore Productions
    Posted from my iPad

  • Gary Huff

    September 26, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    [Tony Brittan]Now, this is all not a replacement for real equipment,

    Why is it not?

    [Kim Krause][I]t’s what i’ve been preaching for awhile now but be prepared to get all kinds of hate mail from so called “real” editors who will call you crazy and unprofessional.

    [Craig Seeman]You have described next year’s location scout and maybe the expansion of ENG. The iPhone goes where the news crew can’t.

    How come now the responses don’t jive with these original statements? I thought this was the YouTube generation, where kids are shooting on their phones and people are enjoying the videos that they put together in iMovie/FCPX and uploading to the web. Craig Seeman already mentioned a business that was using iMovie to do their videos, so why now all of a sudden the resistance to using the iPhone/iTouch/iPad as the “A” cam?

  • Joseph W. bourke

    September 26, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    The kicker is, if the footage is compelling, it doesn’t matter if it was shot on an oatmeal box with a pinhole in it. This is the decade of the self shot newscast.

    You see it everywhere in the news – in the requests for viewer footage and stills, and in the shots of neighbor’s houses burning down, shot with a phone, when there couldn’t be a news crew there. If there’s footage, it will air, no matter how poor in quality.

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Joseph W. bourke

    September 26, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    I agree with a lot of this discussion, and I disagree with a lot. A small camera with a crappy lens and a tiny sensor will never replace a pro camera with good glass and a huge sensor, except in some of the situations described above – ENG (maybe), location scouting (absolutely), music video (angles you couldn’t get a big rig into), and b-roll in productions in which the footage is heavily effected, and you wouldn’t notice the lack of quality.

    Why didn’t the VHS camera get adopted over the 3/4 inch, beta-SP, and one-inch formats? Resolution. Why won’t phone footage and iPad footage replace A cameras? Quality.

    But…in the News business, all bets are off. The worst quality footage in the world will make it to air if it’s the ONLY footage!

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Craig Seeman

    September 26, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    [Joseph W. Bourke] “This is the decade of the self shot newscast. “

    And the send to CNN iReport in FCPX is an acknowledgement of that.

  • Gary Huff

    September 26, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Nah, I just think all of you are scared that some kid with an iPhone 5 and FCPX on his MacBook Air is going to come along and kick all of your HPX/EX/Red camera-carrying butts.

  • Clint Wardlow

    September 26, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Yeah, because the advent of youtube has so increased the quality of movie making. Those suckers making $100 million movies are losing their shirts and everybody that posts to youtube is rolling in dough.

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