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E5 Xeons already shipping?
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[Phil Hoppes] “No…. I really think Apple is a consumer company.”
iPhones and iPads are used in Enterprise and that market is growing. One can say the iPad has become the “Day Runner” of choice for business people. I don’t think MacBookAirs are “consumer” either when one considers a market for that was a light portable for business travelers. All these products are used by both “consumers” and professionals. I also know professionals using MacMinis in workplace environments. Currently the only “consumer” specific product is AppleTV since it’s probably too limited to be used in the corporate presentation room environment.
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Simply because a product is targeted and designed for one market does not mean someone from a different market won’t buy it. Products are classified as to what market they are design for. Apple products are targeted towards consumers. There is not an SQL server package from Apple. They dropped all of their server products. They don’t give a rat about supporting the enterprise market. If enterprise users want to buy their products they are not going to stop them but they are also not going to target their product design for them either.
A note. In my previous life before doing what I do now I was a chip designer serving the PC industry. I worked at companies that provided IC’s to Dell, HP and Apple for use inside of their computers. I can tell you unequivocally and without hesitation at no time did I ever hear anyone inside of Apple ever mention much less talk about needing any products to serve the enterprise market. They did not care then. They do no care now.
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[Phil Hoppes] “Products are classified as to what market they are design for. Apple products are targeted towards consumers.”
I’ve seen in numerous reports, that’s not the case. Apple’s approach is to target making “the best possible product” and the customer uses as they see fit.
[Phil Hoppes] “They don’t give a rat about supporting the enterprise market.”
Not according to many articles and interviews I’ve read.I think RIM (BlackBerry) would strongly disagree with you for one.
There’s been a lot of work to make iOS devices work to support the enterprise market. There’s certainly a number of gov’t contracts that probably wouldn’t have happened without that work either.
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I’ve got to agree more with Philip on this one. Apple got the iPad and iPhone into enterprise through the back door. They made products that people really liked and wanted to use and that grass roots movement, if you will, is forcing companies and governments to figure out how to support the devices and fold them into their infrastructures.
A friend of mine works closely with IT for a large insurance company and what he told me once I think sums this up. Whether we like it or not people will demand to use these devices for work purposes so we need to figure out how to support them because not supporting them isn’t a realistic option.
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“One can say the iPad has become the “Day Runner” of choice for business people.”
Sorry Craig, I think you may be overstating this.
https://www.avanade.com/Documents/Resources/consumerization-of-it-executive-summary.pdf
“Across media and industry discussions, iPhones and iPads have become synonymous with the trend of consumerization of IT. Research shows Apple is a factor in the consumerization of IT, but it is far from alone in driving the trend. In fact, the most popular consumer device that employees are bringing into the enterprise is not an Apple product.”
Shawn
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It’s not “back door” if Apple is working on this.
Apple puts a product out in the market and people come back with “needs demands” and then Apple responds.
In many respects this is what happened with FCP legacy as well. It certainly didn’t support “Pro” features out of the gate. They developed over time.
Thunderbolt is not a “consumer” technology . . . event if that enters consumer use “through the back door.” It’s designed for those who need the throughput.
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Dell: we’re no longer a PC company
That on the heels of HP’s flirtation with dropping PCs. HP has since replaced its CEO and retracted the plan to abandon PCs, but they are losing money on them rather badly either way. The only company seeing any solid growth in the PC business these days is… Apple!
I think there is a big difference between Apple’s avoidance of the big iron enterprise market and Apple abandoning the desktop workstation market. Regular joes don’t buy servers, but photogs, indie editors, designers, and developers buy Mac Pros.
I guess we’ll all find out which way the wind is really blowing in Cupertino very soon.
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Given iPad sales vs other tablets, I don’t think Android would come close.
iPhone vs Android is another story.If anything, the article shows that there’s no longer a clear division between “consumer” and “business” products.
It would be perfectly reasonable for Apple to retool the MacPro to fit broader market demands. To do that would mean a Xeon based computer would have be designed to fill multiple niches.
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“I think RIM (BlackBerry) would strongly disagree with you for one.”
Blackberry is still more popular in the enterprise space than Apple. In fact, Research in Motion is growing again after some very painful cuts last year.
Shawn
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That the company is recovering doesn’t mean that their growth in enterprise matches Apple.
Apple targeting iOS Enterprise development.
https://developer.apple.com/programs/ios/enterprise/
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