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DVCPRO HD vs ProRess vs ProRess HQ
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[JeremyG] “It’s not bad. This is why I said we could argue the quality of DVCPro HD. I don’t use it. We shoot with it, but I prefer to work in 10bit as MOST of our projects have graphics. Is it totally necessary? No. Do people complain about our work and it’s quality? Never, so I keep working in 10bit. “
All very true… This discussion is like talking about political viewpoints. No one is wrong. We just have our ways of doing things.
Our work has very little graphics, so its unnecessary for us to do 10-bit. But I will say that when I need it, I do use ProRes HQ.
My comment about DVCProHD comes from all of the people bashing its quality. If you shoot in DVCProHD (and many many people do) and capture in a better quality codec, its still not going to be any better UNLESS you are doing lots of graphics.
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[Wayne Carey] “Our work has very little graphics, so its unnecessary for us to do 10-bit. But I will say that when I need it, I do use ProRes HQ.
My comment about DVCProHD comes from all of the people bashing its quality. If you shoot in DVCProHD (and many many people do) and capture in a better quality codec, its still not going to be any better UNLESS you are doing lots of graphics.”
actually, our work is full of graphics and animations. We still use the DVCPro HD codec as I have yet to see a graphic / animation we’ve created that looks bad in DVCPro HD or looks better in 8 or 10bit. Two major networks have repeatedly told us we’re delivering the best looking HD programming they’re receiving. All DVCPro HD from ingest to layback.
We have not found a reason to switch from DVCPro yet though like I said, we’re going to look at Pro Res very shortly and see how that performs in day to day operation and whether we gain anything at all. I really don’t think we will.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Like I said earlier, what works for one may not work fro another. But that being said, working with FCP, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
We work with corporate logos for show opens and closes, and I found that using DVCProHD, there was some artifacting around the logos. Before ProRes, I was outputting my show opens and closes using the Animation codec. Now, I use ProRes HQ. And my opens and closes look extremely clean.
But like I said, what works for one may not for the other.
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Wayne Carey
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I’m with you, Wayne, All graphics work we did and render out to DVCPro HD looked ‘worse’ than uncompressed and now ProRes.
But whatever, if DVCpro HD works for you, it works for you.
Jeremy
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Pretty much the ONLY HD format I have worked with is DVCPRO HD, and I have had no reason to use any other codec when working with it. I even composite with this format, which has it’s challenges, but is doable.
I’d only consider going to ProRes and 10-bit when it came time to color correct. To get rid of that 8-bit banding.
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