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Does This Kill The Mac Pro?
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[Martti Ekstrand] “Having seen how a mid-range gaming PC just shines with Premiere Pro, running circles around my MacPro (with a ATI card) has really forced me to for the first time ever to consider buying a Windows box next time I upgrade.”
Buying Macs has never been about speed (at least for us).
They have always been slower and not as speedy as PCs.
Jeremy
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What do you mean by “us”?
For me, it’s been about speed, too, all along.
When the first Macpros came out they were as beefy as any PC out there. The fact that Apple doesn’t offer Nvidia cards anymore is bad but typical political bs on their behalf. They could have done so much more on the hardware side for higher end users but that’s just not their game anymore. -
[Frank Gothmann] “What do you mean by “us”?”
If you take a step back, I think you might find that he means the shop in which he works. At least, that is how I took it.
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[Frank Gothmann] “What do you mean by “us”?”
The people that I work with. Us, here at the shop.
[Frank Gothmann] “When the first Macpros came out they were as beefy as any PC out there. The fact that Apple doesn’t offer Nvidia cards anymore is bad but typical political bs on their behalf. They could have done so much more on the hardware side for higher end users but that’s just not their game anymore.”
The MacPros have traditionally not been the highest powered PC on the market. Look at them today, they haven’t been refreshed in quite a while, and they are not the fastest computers on the market. Even when they are brand new and perhaps match up spec wise, that doesn’t last for long. As a system, they are never as beefy. You can customize a PC much easier than you can a Mac in terms of cache, bus, processors and connectivity.
Apple has usually always favored system stability over speed.
Jeremy
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[Chris Harlan] “If you take a step back, I think you might find that he means the shop in which he works. At least, that is how I took it.”
Yes, thank you!
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[Jeremy Garchow] “The MacPros have traditionally not been the highest powered PC on the market. Look at them today, they haven’t been refreshed in quite a while, and they are not the fastest computers on the market. Even when they are brand new and perhaps match up spec wise, that doesn’t last for long. As a system, they are never as beefy. You can customize a PC much easier than you can a Mac in terms of cache, bus, processors and connectivity.”
Agreed.
[Jeremy Garchow] “Apple has usually always favored system stability over speed.”
I think this incorrectly implies that other vendors sacrifice stability for speed.
Walter Soyka
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[Walter Soyka] “I think this incorrectly implies that other vendors sacrifice stability for speed.”
OK.
Apple has never been concerned about having the fastest computers in the world, as they favor stability, and that means tightly controlling their hardware offerings.
Better? 🙂
Jeremy
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quite.
I trust the mac the way I trust a volvo or something. I just can’t quite bear the notion of a windows rig purchase..
but say – if the macpro goes, and the hints have become heavy…
so then say its laptops, the mac mini, and the iMac, (worst case scenario where apple do not do what seeman is outlining with a beefed up mini of some kind becoming a red style modular OS X core for post)sort of, what happens in post then? Apple have long eyes for sure, but where is video post production absorbed in the line up? They really mean it for video to some degree – whatever we think, FCPX did take some time – but where does video post production past the home office fit in?
Facilities, say, can’t realistically all buy iMacs, or laptops – does the whole thing hinge on a radical big mac empowerment of the mac mini? I’m a moron on the hardcore facility stuff Jeremy – this is an honest question type thing –
basically – I’m selfishly thinking about my own wee ecosystem of clients – they are entirely populated with macpros, some of them are large and all – its a reasonably serious question in a way – there are acres of macpros tied via fibre to storage in london – what happens if the mac pro tower goes?
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what happens if the mac pro tower goes? Apologies to Queen –
Thunderbolt and Lightning
Very Very Frightning….No need to be afraid of PC hardware. Under the hood it is the same as a Mac now, just cheaper and faster. And I can buy the parts and rebuild my PCs keeping my rack mount boxes going into a second decade.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “I trust the mac the way I trust a volvo or something. I just can’t quite bear the notion of a windows rig purchase.”
Fear not, brother. I’ve been running a Z800 from HP next to my Mac Pro full-time on real work for a week. You may well be surprised — the PC platform has changed (quite a lot, and for the better) since I switched from PCs to Macs 11 years ago.
What exactly is it about Windows that gives you pause?
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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