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  • Craig Seeman

    November 4, 2009 at 4:33 am

    Pull it out and put it back in immediately and try again. That may prevent the error from appearing again.
    If it’s not saying something like Unrecognized Media, then it’s seeing the card.

    If the above doesn’t work, try using “Update” in the menu (forgot exactly where it is).

  • Brent Critchfield

    November 4, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    The nanoFlash would be a great solution at a lower price point. Unfortunately at $3K I’m cheaper to buy 32GB Sony SxS cards.

    So Craig mentions the ATP ProMAX, and Ron mentions the Hoodman adapter. Do these seem to be the best products at this point? Would this likely be a reliable combination?

    What about the transfer speeds I’m getting into the computer? Is this normal for an SDHC setup, or should I be seeing speeds closer to what I’m getting with the Sony card? Would this likely improve with an ATP/Hoodman setup?

  • Craig Seeman

    November 5, 2009 at 12:05 am

    https://mxmexpress.com/
    They are the makers of the Hoodman card.
    MxM and Hoodman are the same.
    I believe MxR is too.

    Depending on your setup it’s about half the transfer speed of SxS.

  • Brent Critchfield

    November 5, 2009 at 12:43 am

    For general information, I just got off the phone with one of the tech guys from Hoodman. They’re getting ready to release a new adapter that is significantly faster than the current version (he didn’t have an official ETA yet, he was going to call the guys in Australia and find out). In testing yesterday they were able to sustain full 60fps overcranking for 2 mins.

    At this point I’m probably looking at the Hoodman card and adapter. It’s a little bit more than the ATP, but at least the manufacturer will stand behind it and support it, which is worth the little bit of extra $$ to me.

  • Craig Seeman

    November 5, 2009 at 6:04 am

    [Brent Critchfield] “he was going to call the guys in Australia “

    That’s MxM. Same adaptor just to be very clear.

    [Brent Critchfield] “they were able to sustain full 60fps overcranking for 2 mins.
    At this point I’m probably looking at the Hoodman card and adapter. It’s a little bit more than the ATP”

    This is unclear. Do they claim the Hoodman RAW card can sustain 60fps? The issue has NOT been the adaptor but Sony’s implementation of USB support for the adaptors, which Sony did for their hard drive which also can not sustain 60fps.

    Of course if Hoodman RAW could support 60fps that would be excellent but they originally claimed 48fps on their site and that turned out not to be true. Their cards did not better than compatible Sandisk and Transcend cards for overcrank.

    I do not believe in “claims,” I believe in user test results.

  • Jordan Dwyer

    November 5, 2009 at 11:08 am

    Just a thought about the faulty SxS card have you by any chance formatted in the incorrect format on your computer. Correct me if i am wrong but i believe it should be the FAT format option. However you should never format on the computer just use the camera it’s safer. And if you are using SDHC cards then try to avoid formatting all together and just go to clip , delete all clips in the menu.

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  • Marek Bilski

    November 6, 2009 at 6:10 am

    Hi, MxM here, I’d like to clarify Craig’s comment about MxR being the same as MxM – just want to let you know that MxM is absolutely NOT the same as MxR… We use far superior technology and we only innitally were the same, but over the past several months we have developed new technology which permits a higher array of recognition of memory cards and also allows a faster SDHC memory card which potentially is capable of over cranking up to 60fps. I ran a test on SanDisk Extreme class 10 32GB memory card and was able to get 6 minutes of 54fps of overcranking. So the faster memory we can access the more overcranking we can achieve. There is also another company who is introducing SDHC memory cards at 300X speed which can translate to hopefully to about 25MB/s in writing so I’ll be interested to see what overcranking is achievable with this.
    I hope to be able to continue to contribute and be more than happy to clarify any issues users may be enquiring about on this forum.

    MxM

  • Barry Bishop

    November 6, 2009 at 7:09 am

    Couldnt find update at all in the camera, and I googled and went through it. Can you please give further instruction?

    Barry
    Associate Web Producer/ Video Editor

  • Craig Seeman

    November 6, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    [Marek Bilski] “We use far superior technology and we only innitally were the same, but over the past several months we have developed new technology which permits a higher array of recognition of memory cards and also allows a faster SDHC memory card which potentially is capable of over cranking up to 60fps.”

    A major thank you for that update!

    [Marek Bilski] ” I ran a test on SanDisk Extreme class 10 32GB memory card and was able to get 6 minutes of 54fps of overcranking.”

    Very impressive! You should state this on your page. I think many had assumed the adaptor was simply coming from the same manufacturer built to the same specs.

    [Marek Bilski] “There is also another company who is introducing SDHC memory cards at 300X speed which can translate to hopefully to about 25MB/s in writing so I’ll be interested to see what overcranking is achievable with this. “

    Please keep us informed. Without marketing these points we simply don’t know. What is delivery date of such card?

    Maybe you should advertise on the COW and target market to this forum. You’d certainly have lots of eager customers.

    I would certainly like to see user tests to verify performance on the Sandisk Extreme cards. I’d love to see results on ATP ProMax as well. The few who’ve mentioned they’re using them have not had any of the reliability problems reported with Transcend and Sandisk Ultra these days.

  • Craig Seeman

    November 6, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    On EX1 firmware must be 1.11 and up and is part of the EX3 from the start. There’s no mention of it in the EX1 manual. I believe it’s specifically there to fix issues on the card such a metadata.

    I don’t remember where it is exactly in the menu but I think it was in the “other” menu where such things as clip numbering exists. It won’t be there unless you have the appropriate firmware though.

    If the camera isn’t saying “unrecognized media” then I believe the card can be fixed.

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