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Do FCPX freelance editors charge for your “Edit Suite”
Walter Soyka replied 10 years, 9 months ago 20 Members · 79 Replies
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Eric Santiago
July 2, 2015 at 2:26 pm[Tim Wilson] “Yet another part of the economy that boomers torched before millenials arrived. You’re welcome. LOL”
You kids get off my lawn!!!
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Jeremy Garchow
July 2, 2015 at 4:25 pm -
Andrew Kimery
July 2, 2015 at 4:30 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Please note the NLE being used in the $5 service:”
1. Obviously you wouldn’t want to show FCP X if you are trying to sell a professional service. 😉
2. If this guy only charges $5 and can still afford Adobe CC I think the complaints about price are officially dead. lol
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David Mathis
July 2, 2015 at 4:37 pmImagine your clients seeing this and say, “Hey, they can do this for a low, flat fee, so you can do the same!” 😉
Yeah, right, that is unless hell itself freezes over.
The magnetic timeline, it’s magnetic-o-matic!
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Oliver Peters
July 2, 2015 at 4:37 pm[Andrew Kimery] “If this guy only charges $5 and”
Actually, I think that’s the structure of this service. If you look at the options, that’s clearly a starting price and a lot of folks have caveats about being contacted first to discuss requirements.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Andrew Kimery
July 2, 2015 at 4:43 pm[Oliver Peters] “Actually, I think that’s the structure of this service. If you look at the options, that’s clearly a starting price and a lot of folks have caveats about being contacted first to discuss requirements.”
Just can’t let me have my joke, can you Oliver… 😉
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Jeremy Garchow
July 2, 2015 at 5:01 pm[Andrew Kimery] “[Jeremy Garchow] “Please note the NLE being used in the $5 service:”
1. Obviously you wouldn’t want to show FCP X if you are trying to sell a professional service. 😉
2. If this guy only charges $5 and can still afford Adobe CC I think the complaints about price are officially dead. lol”
3. Regarding 1. Touché, but I saw the opportunity. I took it. 😀 I am sure if I really wanted to ruin my day, I could all kinds of services starting at $5 using all kinds of software.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3qsjfOX6Go
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Oliver Peters
July 2, 2015 at 5:36 pm[Andrew Kimery] “Just can’t let me have my joke, can you Oliver… ;)”
Oops. Sorry, although I wasn’t responding about the NLE reference.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Mark Suszko
July 2, 2015 at 6:48 pmI’m mostly in agreement with Garchow.
My take is, why even tell a client you have two rates for with/without gear? Fold the prorated costs of your gear into the computations of your day rate, which you should have done from the beginning.
You come at one price, period. None of this ‘a la carte’ BS. All that does is give away control of how you do your work, giving that control away to someone who may not know anything about it.
If they then book you to work in their room, with their gear, you’re making a little bit more, OK, but you need not tell them that. Think of it as the “commuting charge”. The main thing they are paying for is what’s between your ears, and that doesn’t change when the gear does. If you feel bad about the extra profit margin, you can find a reason to “discount” some back to the client, perhaps by under-reporting the hours on the job.
But consider: in someone else’s room, their gear, their wiring setups, etc., you may be slightly less efficient, just because it’s not all set up the way you’re used to, or they may have some different components than you have at home, and you may need to adapt a little.
I think it all works out the same, in the end, so naming two rates, with/without, is a wash, and only opens a crack in the negotiations for the client to try and talk you down.
If the difference in rates between gear/no gear is the sticking point, I put it to you, that’s probably just the convenient excuse they are giving. You’re REALLY being hired for your skills, craft, knowledge, not primarily because you own some hardware.
The hardware is a bonus, an “added value”, if you will. It isn’t really the focus. Hiring your TALENT is the real focus.
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Oliver Peters
July 2, 2015 at 7:48 pm[Mark Suszko] “You come at one price, period. None of this ‘a la carte’ BS. All that does is give away control of how you do your work, giving that control away to someone who may not know anything about it.”
Except that’s unrealistic on a location gig. If your normal day-rate for a 10-hour day is $500, then with edit system and you, that should be $750-$850. If you charge $750 regardless, then you won’t get the gig. The reality is that in most of the country, clients expect (and budget) to pay about $500-$600/10-hour day for an on-site editor and often ASSUME this includes gear.
The reason the discussion must be had is in order to define what the client’s expectation of gear capabilities are and whether or not what you are supplying meets the needs. For example, are they going to hand you KiPro drives (FW800 only) and assume you can just plug them into your Thunderbolt MBP? That’s when it’s nice to know that up front, so that you supply the proper adapters. Or does the client expect you to come with external speakers so that their gaggle of clients are able to review your cut when you are set up in a hotel room?
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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