Death of Aperture-FCPX Next?

[Brent Cook]

I don’t see it mentioned there, except by someone in the comments.

[Mitch Ives]

[Robert Gilman] “My research suggest that techcrunch got that meme going. They now say at the bottom of https://techcrunch.com/2014/06/27/apple-to-cease-development-of-aperture-and... that:

“Article updated to clarify that there is no official workflow for migrating to Lightroom.””

That part never made sense, but it’s still reported everywhere else. To me it’s a red-herring.

The real story is that EVERYONE is saying that it’ll be no replacement for Aperture for some time. Sound familiar? Same process as FCPX, Pages, Numbers, Keynote. So, whether Apple works with Adobe or not, we’ll all be forced into an Adobe subscription until Apple fills in the missing features. And even then, if it requires using the cloud, then some people will be forced to stay with Adobe.

If I were a cynic, I’d say Photos is designed to force us into larger storage, paid iCloud subscriptions… but then that would be silly, huh?

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Bill Davis]

I sincerely doubt that Shane.

X is, IMO, way too deep for the casual editor who just wants to enjoy curating and messing with personal content.

Forcing a casual editor into a world with Roles and XML and Scopes is just silly.

In my thinking, Aperture might have been more likely to see an update if Adobe hadn’t exempted Lightroom from the CC model. Funny how CC was required for progress for everyone except the still photo folks.

And remember, the voices have endlessly piped up on how Apple is nuts to do (insert initiative here) and that they’ll go broke, or be sold or fail miserably over and over and over, only to have Apple out think and out innovate in the marketplace time and time again.

I have no clue what they’re planning with still image management technology – but based on their overall track record, I’m VERY excited to see what happens. It’s not like they don’t understand the biggest parts of the still image puzzle, which to my thinking are metadata management, high quality image processing, and automating all sorts of processes that were once done by hand (like, foe example, basic flesh tone calibration) but that they realize can be done in a more automated fashion in the modern era.

It’s also crystal clear to me that the original metadata centric foundations of X were designed to allow it to do precisely what it’s slotting into so well. Manage complexity and make editing easier when an editor has to balance time against complexity. Particularly if whey want to devote more of their scarce minutes or hours to creativity rather than hopping in and out of discrete workspace modules or shuffling clips around in old style destructive timelines.

If you can manage your deadline such as with a movie release or a season of TV where the delivery date is months or years down the road, then X may be a great convenience but it’s probably not a necessity.

But if you have to mirror modern business practices where shortening production schedules often leads to a competitive advantage – that’s when X can really rock your world.

My 2 cents.

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[Brent Cook]

I’m not familiar with that site, but it does say it there. Thanks.

[Marcus Moore]

Let’s not forget that iMovie IS FCPX, just with a reduced UI wrapper.

[Brent Cook]

[Mitch Ives] “Jeez, is anybody doing any research?”

Was this necessary? You replied to my same comment respectfully and then this? I’ve looked at 5 or 6 other sources (first page of google search and what I would not consider rumor sights) and it is not mentioned in any of them yet you claim it’s mentioned everywhere. Maybe google works differently for each of us.

[Oliver Peters]

First of all, remember that if you own Aperture today, it will likely continue to work for a long while. The question will be whether Apple pulls it off of the App Store, once Photos is alive.

As Adobe found out in having to offer a Photoshop/Lightroom bundle, the photographer’s world is different than that of the video editor. You can’t easily extrapolate from Aperture what will happen with FCP X and/or Logic Pro X. While Aperture has nominally been part of ProApps, it really hasn’t been positioned in that group by Apple for years. Many of the pro photographers abandoned Aperture for Lightroom years ago. So it’s a different ballgame.

For all we know, Apple is learning from its FCP X experience, where the biggest mistake was calling it Final Cut Pro instead of something else. Photos may well be just as “pro”, but this move is really about the cloud, which is much friendlier to photo media than to movies or music. It’s also about merging the iOS and OSX worlds in ways that make sense.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Marcus Moore]

It was already apparent Apple had learned from the FCPX launch based on Logic Pro X.

[Mitch Ives]

[Brent Cook] “Was this necessary? You replied to my same comment respectfully and then this? I’ve looked at 5 or 6 other sources (first page of google search and what I would not consider rumor sights) and it is not mentioned in any of them yet you claim it’s mentioned everywhere. Maybe google works differently for each of us.”

Wasn’t clear. I was responding to a series of posts questioning my statement. FWIW, it was in the first four I read. Could be a case of everybody quoting each other though, I suppose.

As for Goggle working differently… wouldn’t surprise me… 😉

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Marcus Moore]

Hey Mitch-

I’m just curious about you keep referencing Pages, Numbers, and Keynote. Yes they were missing some higher level features at launch. But now, only about 6 months later- haven’t those issues around Applescript support, interface, etc. been addressed?

Is there anything specific you’re still missing?