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Dangerous forest or enchanted meadow?
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[Simon Ubsdell] “it should have”
Franz? This.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “”The Editor’s Fear of the Timeline” is an all too common affliction”
Second only, perhaps to the newbie shooters irrational fear about “But what if a better camera comes out soon? Maybe I should read a hundred more gear reviews and wait another six months to decide?”
Sometimes I really think the whole internet is a melange of “too much information” butting heads with a pervasive climate of “if I don’t pick the very BEST choice – I’m DOOMED.”
When I was starting out I remember that the folks who got better, quicker – weren’t the ones who spent their time waiting to get ahold of the perfect camera – it was the ones that went out and shot as much stuff as they could with whatever camera they could get their paws on.
Oh well.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Bill Davis] “the folks who got better, quicker – weren’t the ones who spent their time waiting to get ahold of the perfect camera – it was the ones that went out and shot as much stuff as they could with whatever camera they could get their paws on.”
So true.
Comes back to the 10,000 hours thing.
To coin a phrase: just do it!
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Richard Herd] “[Simon Ubsdell] “it should have”
Franz? This.”
“Should have” as in “you would be tempted to think might have”.
Probably not the sense you are trying to wring out of it.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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A couple of things ; The 10,000 hour thing sure – grab a camera and go at it. Unless you see the results of your work- that is through the edit , you can also keep making the same mistakes over and over.. Having to edit what you shot or sit with some one else while they edit what you shot is one of the most squirm – inducing lessons that one can go through. SO yes, shoot by all means, but don’t just throw your stuff over the wall and have it disappear into the editor’s room, witness the edit or edit yourself.
Tim Wrote “But those are indeed its roots. Sync is sacred. Cuts are sacred. Placement on the timeline is sacred. None of this may be altered without honoring the forces that have bound them there.”
Back 1974 I made a video for an Urban Planning class I was taking . It was shot on Sony portapak and edited machine to machine on open reels, without an edit controller. The Time line was a build and was the condensed sweat and tears of my partner and myself. So yeah, this is where this “time line is sacred” attitude originated because the time line back then was almost the same as carving stone, so the time was pretty sacred.
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[Tim Wilson] “To put it more positively, the timeline is sacred. ANYTHING that happens there, whether sculpting or bricklaying (and I think Avid has tended to prefer the latter), HAS to happen with intent. This led to a modal approach that I know has come in for grief from software purists, but it has its roots in the editing process itself: the concept of picture lock. “
[Simon Ubsdell] “To draw the line that connects Media Composer with FCP X is extremely instructive!
“Interestingly enough that’s something that really struck me about the design of X. It really is more Media Composer-like than FCP 7-like. That’s especially ironic since editors using FCP 1-7 and now Premiere Pro often use the timeline as a sort of video scratch pad, with possible clips to be used parked all over the place.
I tend to be a stickler for clean, final sequences. It drives me up the wall when I encounter a “final” sequence with a bunch of extra left over clips still hanging out on the timeline starting a few seconds after the end of the actual program or commercial. Clean up after yourself, dammit!
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[Oliver Peters] “I tend to be a stickler for clean, final sequences. It drives me up the wall when I encounter a “final” sequence with a bunch of extra left over clips still hanging out on the timeline starting a few seconds after the end of the actual program or commercial. Clean up after yourself, dammit!”
Yes.
I wonder how many people here look back at their careers – and can remember how messy they often were when they were developing their creative chops.
IME, in the rush to create – I know I seldom stopped to on carefully putting everything away in real time. And things got messy really fast. It’s probably part of “creative focus”, which demands concentration like nothing else really.
As you get more comfortable, the frustration of disorder faced again and again and again AFTER the creative impulse has done it’s work – often leads to a creator increasingly valuing ORDER in their efforts.
Unless, of course, you’re so successful in your creative work you can simply hire people to follow you around and clean things up after you. ????
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Bill Davis] “As you get more comfortable, the frustration of disorder faced again and again and again AFTER the creative impulse has done it’s work – often leads to a creator increasingly valuing ORDER in their efforts.
“You can be completely tidy at all times ( I won’t say that you should be, of course) and still have all the room in the world to be free and experimental.
But it takes practice – nothing good comes without practice.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Bill Davis] “As you get more comfortable, the frustration of disorder faced again and again and again AFTER the creative impulse has done it’s work – often leads to a creator increasingly valuing ORDER in their efforts.
“One man’s ceiling …
Because I am so naturally messy I have forced myself to be extremely precise in aspects of my work to save me from me. However you can’t tell that by looking at my desk, which is a mess that only I can decipher. Some workmen put away all their tools in nice cabinets, other’s have them lying all around the place, and you can’t know before hand which is the better craftsman.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Simon Ubsdell] “You can be completely tidy at all times ( I won’t say that you should be, of course) and still have all the room in the world to be free and experimental.
But it takes practice – nothing good comes without practice.
“Personally, I’ve learned how to use every App I know (NLE, DAW, GFX, Text, Photo editing.. whatever) by just diving in, completely screwing things up, figuring out what went wrong, and then fixing it. Actually, that still kind of describes my editing style.
Sometimes, it works… ????
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