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Cutting a major Hollywood Feature on FCPX
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[Bill Davis] “On that private board, the discussion about this board had been seen for a long time as a place for “insiders,” and had a lasting impression of a place where anything positive said about X would be belittled by a very vocal core of those who were either negative or simply dismissive of the program. “
Maybe you could tell them that just because we are honest about it’s shortcomings doesn’t mean we’re dismissive. If I was dismissive I wouldn’t have it open every day, and I sure as hell wouldn’t have bought a $7,600 MacPro to give FCP X and Motion as much help as possible…
Just a thought…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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So first I need to scroll the list for my picture, click on it and play to the where sticks hit and put marker. Then I have to go back to the list and scroll for my sound and click on it.
If your Camera and Sound crews set the clocks on their equipment properly before starting production, you can sort your footage in the Event Browser using Content Created – this puts the video from however many cameras are running alongside the audio from however many mics were running, right next to each other.
I use this all the time.
S.
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[Sandeep Sajeev] “If your Camera and Sound crews set the clocks on their equipment properly before starting production, you can sort your footage in the Event Browser using Content Created – this puts the video from however many cameras are running alongside the audio from however many mics were running, right next to each other.
“Me too. In fact, some bids are based on this requirement or the price goes way up. Works very well.
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
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Michael, you are trying WAY to hard to dislike X here..
X has an unbelievable metadata based batch re-naming system built in that quite likely can solve all your objections if you’d just be open to it. .
When you import ANY card or drive or whatever the field guys have stored stuff on, you take an extra 15 seconds and simply batch re-name stuff to your standards.
The original names are still there, it’s camera metadata after all and X is BUILT to preserve it.
You can use a sort code in the renaming process to match up date/time data from the video files and the audio files and everything matches perfectly at time of sync.
Bingo. Problem solved.
Stop looking for ways to imagine that X can’t work. In some narrow cases, YES, it doesn’t work for some users. But far too many people approach it like you do – with the presumption that it’s NOT going to work for them – then they go to huge lengths to prove themselves correct.
All you gain that way is the loss of a tool that might actually make your life easier. Or not. But you’ll NEVER know with the attitude you’re displaying here.
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Michael’s point is that sometimes, if you can’t import the native footage and receive transcodes from outside applications, creation date is divorced from the original footage.
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[Michael Aranyshev] “In X they are in the same lists named according to different conventions and with different creation dates, because even if the clock on all devices was set to the same date and time, ARRIRAW or something recorded in RAW on Odyssey has to be transcoded for X and so will have another creation date.”
Agreed.
What I do then is Keyword/Smart Collect using picture/sound logs to filter my rushes into manageable groups and then work from there.
This isn’t a criticism of your issue btw – just sharing.
S.
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What’s the difference between having roles and sub roles and having tracks that delineate what goes where? And my biggest pet peeve: Why does the nomenclature have to be reinvented?
Tim
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Michael’s point is that sometimes, if you can’t import the native footage and receive transcodes from outside applications, creation date is divorced from the original footage.”
Then just take the 15 seconds in the clip re-naming module to replace the Creation Date info.
What’s the big deal?
It’s a database, for heaven’s sake. WITH robust renaming so that you can batch tag incoming groups of assets to make the database work anyway you could possibly want.
If the incoming tags don’t suit your purposes – you just CHANGE them. By Batch. Largely Automatically.
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[TImothy Auld] “What’s the difference between having roles and sub roles and having tracks that delineate what goes where? And my biggest pet peeve: Why does the nomenclature have to be reinvented?”
Because the magnetic timeline allows assets to shift tracks to avoid clip collisions and therefore make editing much, MUCH easier for those who understand the new system. – the old fixed track system wouldn’t work. Roles provide a way to group (and subgroup!) assets free of track position information and no matter where they move as you edit. It’s hugely freeing to know that you can drop any clip anywhere in a primary or secondary and KNOW that you won’t kill content (or the RELATIONSHIPS you’ve crafted between your storyline elements!) regardless of how new content lands or ripples.
And the nomenclature had to change because the CONCEPTS behind the program had to change. Starting with a clean slate lets you start from scratch and use names that have meaning in the new system. Timelines were FIXED with a zero point and an unbreakable progression in time. Storylines are NOT constrained like that. The zero point FLOATS as required and it’s possible to assemble clips and clip groupings PRIOR to the zero point without having to shift anything. A storyline in X is a thing with NEW behaviors. So what’ can possibly be wrong with giving it a new term?
The typical countervailing argument is the whine of “But I already KNOW words for this kind of stuff – don’t make me learn any new terms.” which is simply kinda LAZY IMO.
Want to learn the new system? Learn the new language. Simple as that.
The coldest splash of water for experienced editors coming to X is the hard realization that while you will still be an expert at EDITING, you are no longer an expert at running the editing software. Not until you put in the same time as everyone else to learn how it works.
It sets you back to square one. And that pisses people off. But it’s what happens. No way to change it.
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[Bill Davis] “Then just take the 15 seconds in the clip re-naming module to replace the Creation Date info.”
I don’t know what you’re referring to here.
Renaming won’t help as it will be based on the new (wrong) creation date of the transcoded material.
We were referring to actual creation date. If you sort the browser by creation date with the original audio, and the transcoded video, there’s a chance they won’t match, to Michael’s point.
Michael’s point is that he sometimes needs to sort out a big mess. He feels that he can do that on a timeline with FCP7 easier than he can in X.
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