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  • Shawn Miller

    March 23, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    [Eric Santiago] “I can only say that in Maya as far as blazing speed.”

    So… is that render speed (which renderer)… view port performance… loading and manipulating large amounts of polygons… using large textures… using a lot of lights… what’s faster on which machine? ☺

    Shawn

  • Eric Santiago

    March 23, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    [Shawn Miller] “So… is that render speed (which renderer)… view port performance… loading and manipulating large amounts of polygons… using large textures… using a lot of lights… what’s faster on which machine? ☺

    Yikes, I’m notorious for replying without reading first 😛
    The HP has a K5000 in it and yes it’s much faster in viewport which is where I live most.
    As far as Arnold rendering, I will use any platform to get things done.
    But I’m pretty sure it’s much faster on the HP than the D700.

  • Shawn Miller

    March 23, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    [Eric Santiago] “[Shawn Miller] “So… is that render speed (which renderer)… view port performance… loading and manipulating large amounts of polygons… using large textures… using a lot of lights… what’s faster on which machine? ☺

    Yikes, I’m notorious for replying without reading first 😛
    The HP has a K5000 in it and yes it’s much faster in viewport which is where I live most.
    As far as Arnold rendering, I will use any platform to get things done.
    But I’m pretty sure it’s much faster on the HP than the D700.”

    Ah, thank you I was wondering! ☺ It sounds like you’re using Arnold in GPU mode, I didn’t know it supported AMD cards now, that’s good news!

    Shawn

  • Eric Santiago

    March 23, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    [Tim Wilson] ” Assuming that they’re similarly spec’d of course….and of course, which is the wowza, and is this good or bad? ????”

    To be honest not even close as far as specs.
    The D700 has 64GB on Mojave and the new Mac Pro is a 16Core with a Vega II (currently 32GB RAM).
    Wowza is the speed difference in both Premiere and After Effects with a basic project.
    Proxy conversion and H264 export in Premiere, Stardust plugin in After Effects.
    I may be just excited to be working with it.
    I’m sure the feeling will wear off…

  • Neil Goodman

    March 23, 2020 at 10:16 pm

    what about all these companies rushing out to buy new laptops only to have them installed with Catalina and the workflow isnt tested or supported with Catalina?

    welocme to my world.

  • Tim Wilson

    March 23, 2020 at 11:35 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “It would be great if within the OS – without any special app – I could directly operate a remote Mac as if I would running a machine right next to me. And with little or no latency. In an ideal world, I *should* be able to run a full-blown Mac Pro across the country, simply by using an iPad Pro.”

    Ah, the return of the skinny client! I dig it!

    In the context of Cupertino having a problem, and whether or not Cupertino agrees, it’s interesting to look at the big picture of market share. Worldwide, it looks like this (with Linux and “other” under these):

    Android WAY in front of Windows and iOS, and certainly MacOS. In the US, it looks MUCH different, though, with iOS over 30%, Windows ahead of Android, but with Mac coming in really not all that much better at only 11%.

    (btw, these are from StatCounter.com, where numbers nerds can have a LOT of fun slicing this in all kinds of different directions.)

    The problem Apple has always had is that they can’t oversell the value of an inter-connected Apple ecosystem, because most people who buy iDevices are NOT running them with Macs. They’re connecting their iDevices to Windows machines more often, or using them strictly standalone. Any “Everything Apple” messaging that stretches much beyond iCloud or Apple email threatens to kill the Golden Goose, which is definitely iOS and its apps, rather than the desktop OS and its apps.

    This isn’t a revenue graph of course, and I don’t mean to disregard the value of the laptop, iMac, and Mac Pro + monitors AND STANDS money to Apple. But it’s really, truly to Apple’s advantage to say, “Use as much or as little of our stuff as you want, and we’ll make it worth your while,” and pretty much leave it at that.

    That said, I was using things like PC Anywhere in the very early 90s (the app actually dates back to 1986), doing pretty extensive remote operations over dialup. It seems crazy to me that Apple hasn’t addressed this in the broadband age. Why would they not?

    There’s the heart of Mark’s original problem right there. He’s got a gazillion editors working on scazillions of shows (using round numbers here), and Apple doesn’t want to hear about it? Doesn’t want to help? I don’t get it.

  • Oliver Peters

    March 23, 2020 at 11:49 pm

    [Tim Wilson] “Android WAY in front of Windows and iOS, and certainly MacOS.”

    The impact of the Asian market and Huawei.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Terry Barnum

    March 24, 2020 at 1:18 am

    [Oliver Peters] “It would be great if within the OS – without any special app – I could directly operate a remote Mac as if I would running a machine right next to me. And with little or no latency. In an ideal world, I *should* be able to run a full-blown Mac Pro across the country, simply by using an iPad Pro.”

    The built-in Screen Sharing sorta works, but as with other solutions, the remote and destination bandwidth affect latency. I have it working from home to an FCPX 5K iMac in the office and installed Soundflower to hear the FCPX audio. The mouse lag is not too bad but video playback seems to be about 15fps.

    -Terry

  • Tim Wilson

    March 24, 2020 at 1:18 am

    [Oliver Peters] “The impact of the Asian market and Huawei.”

    Also Samsung in Korea. I was interested that Parasite was edited with FCP 7, and I suspect that there are a ton of reasons for that, none of which I’ve seen anybody really talk about, because ultimately who cares. LOL But maybe because they don’t care about the newest Apple much of anything: iOS at under 11% and Mac under 5%:


    OS market share in Korea

    Not to paint Asia with too broad a brush, though, because Japan is almost as hot as the US for iOS, and HOTTER for Mac:


    OS market share in Japan

    Japan, the US, and the UK really are exceptions. Check out India: 2%!!!


    OS market share in India

    Germany is better than that, but a lot closer to Korea: iOS under 15% and Mac under 10.


    OS market share in Germany

    Still doing better than South America, where I took a regional slice. Interestingly, the only region I came across where Mac is doing better than iOS, but still under 9% for Mac, under 4% for iOS:


    OS market share in South America

    Again, all from https://gs.statcounter.com/, all February 2020 numbers.

    I’m still comfortable generalizing that Apple has a lot to lose by overselling Mac to iOS customers….while still also agreeing with you that selling iPads to Mac customers as remote terminals makes a ton of sense.

    Haven’t we seen individual apps demoing this? Am I wrong about that?

  • Bob Zelin

    March 25, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    remember when FCP X first came out, and you could not save to a shared network volume, but you could “Share to iCloud”. You see – there was a solution a long time ago. Just shoot with your iPhone, or any h.264 format, edit, and “share to iCloud”. Who needs all these messy MXF and ProRes formats. Who needs AVID Nexis. Who needs Media Composer, Resolve and Premiere. Just do what Cupertino was saying back when FCP X first came out, and “Share to iCloud”. Then you would not have any problems !

    ok – WHO is funny ?
    Bob Zelin

    Bob Zelin
    Rescue 1, Inc.
    bobzelin@icloud.com

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