“credentialed news media”

[Nick Griffin]

Oh, great. Thanks Steve for ruining the scams by telling everybody else about them. 🙂

Fake credentials these days probably is a bad idea, but back in the day adding a nice thick laminate with a neck lanyard to the “pass” made it all the more real. Not that I ever did that.

[Rennie Klymyk]

[Nick Griffin] “Fake credentials these days probably is a bad idea, but back in the day adding a nice thick laminate with a neck lanyard to the “pass” made it all the more real. Not that I ever did that.
“

This all kind of reminds me of my childhood and how my mother instilled in me the taboo of telling lies and how that was something I must never do. Fear would overcome me anytime I felt I was being involved in any kind of lie with my friends or siblings. Things changed a little bit one day when I was about 7 (years old). A group of free thinking 7 year olds revealed to me the concept of a white lie. A white lie was ok, no body got hurt and only a bit of fun or some kind of good came out of it. These were kind of opposite the deep dark lies I’d known about. Comprehending this “white lie” concept was itself exhilarating to me and would leave me elated for several years afterward when ever I participated in one.

I think there is a saying that goes:
discretion is the key to valor. The same hold true for this topic, a little discretion is in order these days but there will always be some justifiable uses for the “white credentials”.

“everything is broken” ……Bob Dylan

[Arnie Schlissel]

[Bob Cole] “And he walked past the soldiers, and as someone exited one of those doors with no knobs on the outside, he slipped right in. “

I think I saw this same guy getting into some Dead shows this way, too! 😉

Arnie
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[Rick Dolishny]

I can’t believe I can’t find it. Sorry, everyone. It was the darling of Hot Docs in Toronto last year. Basically a camera crew tracked down Michael Moore and used the exact same interrogation and stalking style he uses.

They wanted to challenges a few facts from past MM films.

Anyone who hates MM would probably love it.

In a pivotal scene where MM instructs his security staff to not allow these particular filmmakers into a press conference, they created fake IDs at Kinkos and snuck in, cameras rolling, and ambushed him publicly.

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Rick Dolishny
Discrete Editors COW Leader
http://www.thecreativeprocess.ca

[David Roth weiss]

[Rennie Klymyk] “there will always be some justifiable uses for the “white credentials”.”

I think they call that convenient integrity–it only applies when its convenient. However, anytime a person in this business requires approval from a bureaucracy, you can pretty much count on nothing but ostacles. And government bureaucracies are even worse, they hire people whose primary job function is to say “no.” So, if you can get around ’em, I guess that’s fair game.

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[Rick Dolishny]

[Steve Wargo] “I think that Adobe illustrator or Photoshop should be where you should start.”

Steve I have a whole new respect for you now. That and the ‘where’s the remote truck’ story below are awesome. My hero.

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Rick Dolishny
Discrete Editors COW Leader
http://www.thecreativeprocess.ca

[Rennie Klymyk]

[David Roth Weiss] “government bureaucracies are even worse, they hire people whose primary job function is to say “no.”

Here in Canada those people don’t tell us “no” as that answer requires too much authority. Over here it’s “you’ll have to check with another department on that, it’s not in my jurisdiction” Our automated telephone mazes take care of the rest.

“everything is broken” ……Bob Dylan

[Bob Cole]

I love the way this thread has developed. When I posted my question, I wasn’t asking about how to fake a credential; I wanted to know whether there was some way a freelancer could get some piece of paper that would recognize his/her status. But I’m glad that the creative people on this forum shared their exploits.

The era of the fake credential has probably passed. I suspect that the best approach is honesty: “Ma’am, as a freelancer I don’t get a general credential; they’re issued at the venue where we shoot. But do you honestly think I’d be carrying all this s-, um, ‘stuff’ if I didn’t have to?”

Thanks for the laughs. Great ideas.

Bob C

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