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  • Herb Sevush

    November 6, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    [James Ewart] “Just substitute the amount of time you have spent reading and writing posts here for playing with the software before asking the questions.”

    In my total ignorance I have figured out, over time, the best way for me to proceed and I’ve found that off-hour diddling with complex software tends to get me very annoyed and frustrated with it, so not only is it not a no brainier to download a trial now, it’s a non starter.

    Besides which I rather enjoy my time annoying people here with my postings and will continue to do so, with your permission (or without it.)

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • James Ewart

    November 6, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    As ever, your “ignorant questions” are far more incisive and enlightening than a host of other “contributions.

    Just sayin’, as it were.”

    How so ?

  • James Ewart

    November 6, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    You surely have a greater mind than mine for sure (not difficult) but when a free trial is at your disposal why not give it a whirl?

    You are not annoying anybody…I think this community is about helping one another.

    You are posting just to annoy?

    Wow are you that bored?

  • Herb Sevush

    November 6, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “your “ignorant questions” are far more incisive and enlightening than a host of other contributions.”

    To fess up, that was a paid advertisement.

    As an OT matter of interest, as one of the original X skeptics and then later a template creator for X, where is your workflow at now Simon – FCPX full time, NLE bigamist or what?

    Just askin’

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Simon Ubsdell

    November 6, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    [James Ewart] “As ever, your “ignorant questions” are far more incisive and enlightening than a host of other “contributions.

    Just sayin’, as it were.”

    How so ?”

    Herb’s discussions of his workflows have invariably been immensely illuminating to me. An experienced and respected editor in whatever field as always worth listening to.

    At least for as long as they’re still around for us to gain from their wisdom.

    Simon Ubsdell
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • James Ewart

    November 6, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    If you’re going to ask questions about software which is available for free on trial for 30 or 60 days why not download it and try it?

    THEN ask questions.

    just sayin’

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 6, 2013 at 8:44 pm

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  • Simon Ubsdell

    November 6, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “As an OT matter of interest, as one of the original X skeptics and then later a template creator for X, where is your workflow at now Simon – FCPX full time, NLE bigamist or what?”

    For me, FCP7 is still unbeatable and the NLE I spend most of my time working in – there are just too many deep advantages for me to forsake it just yet. Oliver Peters wrote a tremendously good piece about this recently.

    But thanks to the gently reasoned advocacy (how rare is that?) of editors like Charlie Austin I’ve recently migrated a few serious projects to X and have really enjoyed the cutting process.

    What I haven’t enjoyed are the attendant workflow headaches which subsequently made me regret the decision.

    The inability to relink to source material of a different length is a massive hindrance to our typical workflow. Add to that the lack of ganging, traditional replace editing, adequate timecode displays, etc. and it all becomes a serious production number pretty quickly.

    I fully accept that our workflows are not typical and have no intrinsic right to be catered for by any NLE manufacturer, but I do have to deliver results to my clients, if you see what I mean.

    Premiere is a non-starter for all its attractions because no-one in our industry uses it and it holds no advantages over Legacy for the work that we do. Meanwhile Media Composer remains a stolid, dull and slow workhorse that I inevitably revert to more often than I’d like for creative editing purposes.

    The big problem with finding a replacement, is that Legacy was just too darn good.

    And it wasn’t that good.

    Simon Ubsdell
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Herb Sevush

    November 6, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    [James Ewart] ” when a free trial is at your disposal why not give it a whirl?”

    As I tried to explain, I believe I only get one free trial, and if I get it now when I don’t have the time to really give it a full test then I won’t be able to get it in March when I will have the time. I work on a yearly schedule that runs from May to May, and even if I determined that X was perfect for my needs I still wouldn’t be able to implement it into a workflow that is almost half way through 26 half hour episodes. Patience is a virtue.

    An old joke goes this way – A young bull and an old bull are standing on a hill, overlooking a valley full of cattle when the young bull says “hey, why don’t we run down the hill and f*ck us a cow” to which the old bull says “son, why don’t we walk down the hill and f*ck them all.”

    [James Ewart] “You are posting just to annoy? Wow are you that bored?”

    Apparently you don’t get my humor, but no I’m not that bored.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Herb Sevush

    November 6, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “For me, FCP7 is still unbeatable and the NLE I spend most of my time working in – there are just too many deep advantages for me to forsake it just yet. Oliver Peters wrote a tremendously good piece about this recently.”

    Yes, good article, the lack of batch export, timecode displays and the lack of media trimming would be a PITA for me. Not a deal breaker but a PITA none the less.

    [Simon Ubsdell] “The big problem with finding a replacement, is that Legacy was just too darn good.
    And it wasn’t that good.”

    Great line, I shall use it with glee, but without attribution.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

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