Creative Cloud

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Herb Sevush] “Neither of those statements are true, and it’s up to each editor to figure out if the trade offs are worth it.”

Completely.

[Gary Huff]

[James Ewart] “I’m led to believe that saloon and rally car drivers more often than not bypass the clutch and jam the gear in to save time.”

I do that when I’m late to work.

[Tom Gomez]

Interesting discussions! I learned to edit tape-to-tape. First NLE was Premiere 4. Became a professional Avid editor. Loved it. Switched to FCP editing TV and movies because of price. Now my studio switched from FCP7 to Premiere after not being thrilled with FCPX. Full circle back to Adobe. Love what Adobe is doing–aggressively listening and improving things. My big beef with Apple was that they took a big turn NOT listening for long while. But if they’re back… it will be great to have multiple tools competing to be the best.

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[Charlie Austin]

[Tom Durham] “My big beef with Apple was that they took a big turn NOT listening for long while. “

I realize that many here don’t believe this, but they have been, and are listening. They created an entirely new NLE. They launched it… badly. And they’re continually implementing road mapped (probably), and user requested, features. Now maybe they should shout about it more, but as someone who has tried to reach out to the X folks in a constructive (and probably annoying) way I can assure you that they do listen. And for those who use X, sending feedback makes a difference as well.

Just because they’re not actively participating in forums like this, doesn’t mean they’re not lurking. Silently. Plotting to kill everyo… uh… never mind…

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Tom Gomez]

I hear ya and it sounds like they are doing a great job these days. The proof is in the pudding and people seem to be loving X and my studio’s all-CC workflow will run on a bunch of new Mac Pros.

But the disenchantment with Apple really was more than just a bad X launch. From my point of view, it was years of not paying attention… not updating Mac Pros in any serious way, not significantly updating Final Cut Studio for a long time… tantalizing us with Color and then dumping it… and then in the end… SURPRISE… dumping FCP7 for X. Maybe that wasn’t all a mistake on Apple’s part from a business point of view. But for me and a lot of people I work with, they lost my confidence as a professional and I left before they could win it back.

But again, I love what they’re doing now. Anything that helps people produce better art faster and more economically has my vote.

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[Charlie Austin]

[Tom Durham] “From my point of view, it was years of not paying attention… not updating Mac Pros in any serious way, not significantly updating Final Cut Studio for a long time… tantalizing us with Color and then dumping it…”

Yeah, I hear ya, totally understandable. I guess since FCP was working for me, even after it was dead, I never really got to that point. I think what they’re doing now is pretty cool, though it’s gonna be impossible to make everyone happy at this point. It’s good that there are choices now… keeps everyone on their toes. 🙂

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[James Ewart]

Have you downloaded it and done a test of your workflow with it?

[Herb Sevush]

[James Ewart] “Have you downloaded it and done a test of your workflow with it?”

Not yet, I plan to early next year when I will be switching out of 7. If I knew the answers I wouldn’t be asking the questions.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[James Ewart]

Just thinking if your workflow is quite specific testing yourself might be the only way that’s all.

Here in UK you get 30 days free trial…must be the same over there no?

https://www.apple.com/uk/finalcutpro/trial/

[Herb Sevush]

[James Ewart] “Just thinking if your workflow is quite specific testing yourself might be the only way that’s all. “

I don’t think my workflow is particularly arcane – PBS cooking show, shot multicam 1080 – it’s just that I’m an old fuss budget and like to have things a certain way.

I’ve cut cooking shows on 3 different NLE’s so far – EMC, *edit, FCP – and it looks like a fourth one is in my near future. I’m confident I could achieve the same results on any system out there – X, PPro, Avid, Edius even Vegas – it’s just that if I’m spending all that time working with a software tool I’d prefer to keep the cursing under my breath and the throwing objects at the wall to a minimum.

The only prefect editing system for me is the one I’ve designed in my head, and unfortunately it has a market of one and is not of much interest to financial backers.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf